Discussion in 'Accessories / Connections' started by Guitarfreak, Jun 4, 2009.
Has anyone used these?
I was pretty stoked to hear about it when it was first coming out, but after reading around it seems less cool.
For me, the big turn off is you have to set your bridge up to sit on the body. Apparently, it's not designed (or just unable) to work with a 'floating' trem.
So I just wound up setting up one of my Floyd equipped guitars to live in drop-d.
Are you serious? You need to have a hard tail to use it? Or at least use enough spring tension to get it to lay flat? Then what's the f***ing point? If that's true, and I'd believe you or else they'd be more popular, why would anyone buy one?
I would think anything that's going to change the total string tension is going to knock an instrument with a floating tail piece out of tune. Whether it's this gadget or the trusty old Hipshot. This thing is about half the cost of a Hipshot, so that's interesting.
I never liked a floater anyway. The more I bend the more the tailpiece comes up and I never get to the note I'm trying to bend to. I don't like playing holding onto the whammy bar all night either.
But I'm no metal shredder.
Yeah, Ed never like the concept of floating either. Banck in the day, when the Floyd was fresh and new, the standard installaltion had an 1/8 inch or so between the body and bridgeplate (not floating per se, but not seated either) and EVH actually screwed a quarter into the body of the guitar and partly under the bridge to 'dead' it off in case a string broke.
But I don't think he deliberately designed the D tuna to discriminate against those of us who prefer to float. It just seems that that's the only way to get something like this to work on Floyd.
The D Tuna deal is this;
It's a cammed sleeve that slides over the Floyds sting locking screw( actually, it comes with a LONGER screw that you swap out with the original one).
As we all know, the Floyd saddles are hinged, so the fine tuner screw can 'pivot' the saddle up or down, therefore sharping or flat-ing the string pitch.
So insert the D Tuna-
The sleeve now rests between the Fine Tuning screw and the String Lock screw. Being a sort of cam, the sleeve is machined flatter in one spot, and acts as a 'pre-set', so you can 'push in' (E) or 'pull out' (D).
The reason it won't work with a floating set up is; by pulling out (to D) you slack some of the 6th strings tension (obviously, cause now you're in D), but has INCREASED tension on the other 5 strings. You can infer for yourself why this sucks.
Now the Steinberg Transtrem, THAT was a agile tuning trem.......
It's a cool idea, but a technical fail. It seems like the guitars that need it can't use it and the guitars that don't need it can... It works well on seated bridges? Well in that case it's easier to just drop the low string because it doesn't affect the other strings lol.
Well, remember; Even a Floyd that is set to rest on the body(non-floating), STILL has a locking nut, which, when locked, prevents 'quick' retuning. So it DOES serve a valid purpose, just a very limited one.
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