Feared Mixing Contest.

Discussion in 'Tracking / Mixing / Editing' started by hueseph, Jan 9, 2013.

  1. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Feared have a mixing contest right now. They have a whack of stuff to give away. If you can stand to listen to this 30 or 40 times over it might be worth looking into.

    fearedband.com - Competition

    I happen to like the heavy so, I'm all in but certainly there are much better mix engineers out there. I'll just do it for the fun of it.
  2. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Cool, I signed up.
  3. ouzo77

    ouzo77 Active Member

    I'm in!
  4. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Just a note. I downloaded the files and I must say, what a pain. I don't know what I did wrong but it seemed that when I imported the files, there was nothing there! I tried importing a few mor time and it looked like nothing was there. Finally I scrolled along the time line to find the files somewhere beyond the 5 minute mark. I swear it must have been twenty minutes in. I guess when they did their export, they did it to BWAV and gigot that this essentially stamps the files at their time in th project, however many takes in it was at that point. Just to give you the heads up. Of course ther is the possibility that I'm the only one experiencing this.
  5. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Thanks Hue, I was about to import this too.
  6. ouzo77

    ouzo77 Active Member

    Everything's okay here. Lined them up in Logic and they start after one bar.
  7. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Yeah. I figured it would be fine on a Mac. I'm using a Windows 7 64 bit PC.
  8. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Same, lined up perfect. I'm using Win 7 as well. Love it BTW.

    What can happen when importing tracks (on my system anyway). Where ever I put the curser is where the track will import, drop in and start. Its real easy to load a track and think, hey what does it sound like. Then without thinking, you stop somewhere to check something. Now you just added the curser drop point and forget to go back to zero.
    Now when you import more tracks and suddenly discover they are all over the place.

    So when importing and doing these ReMixes, I create example: 24 track session, set the BPM (if you know it), then start importing each one to its channel without touching anything more until they are all in on their appropriate channels. All at Zero

    Hope that helps others :)
  9. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Opened the same files in Pro Tools and everything looks fine.
  10. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    There's something going on that Sonar X2 is doing. At any rate, I'm going to continue in Sonar. I find it much easier to work with. Less plugins to deal with than Pro Tools. I may try in both just for comparison but it's one submission only per entrant.
  11. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    This kind of music isn't my thing but experience is what I'm after right now. And all Remixes improve my chops, even if I don't enter the contest to try and win. I love these contests and hearing how people lay it all down. I can't get enough of it. Thanks for sharing this Hue!

    But these vocals crack me up, ROTF! The guitars are great.

    I'd like your opinions on something before I get started here:
    First impression: Nice clean tracks here but where is the bottom end? Everything is rolled off which takes me to the next question. Is this a good example of kick ass sound for this style or does this song sound really un dynamic and thin? I get the processing and performance, just not familiar on how big I can make this. Right now it all sounds like it was mixed on a system with huge subs coming back at me sounding like a small radio back in the 70's. Ticky kick, thin drums etc.

    Thanks for your help!
  12. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    I'd love to hear what you guys come up with. Is there going to be a place where we can all hear what others are doing?

    An observation after a few more listens,

    Man, this goes to show that we all need to be really aware of styles and sonic tastes when critiquing music more dynamic than this.. Using subs for this music seems appropriate because there is nothing going on low end. But for those unaware of that, who use exaggerated subs or really bass heavy monitors to help beef this music up, then you listen to a track with full bandwidth, wow, talk about confusion and miss reading mixes.

    What's ironic though, the music that comes on just before the contest song starts playing, almost blows my drivers. Then their track starts and its missing all the subs.
    Looking around for more examples to get a broader sonic reference, the guitar is really the nucleus and everything else is mixed with a lot of HPF/ LPF.

    Just leaving a DubStep contest, this is like listening to AM radio through 3inch speakers on steroids.

    Fun track.
  13. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Well, it would be wise not to post more than one version and that the version you post is for the contest only. Any other uploads will disqualify you. Of course, that may have no factor in my chances of winning anyway but I like to try to stick to the rules. They are accepting uploads to youtube or Soundcloud as long as you add the hashtag, #fearedmixingcomp.
  14. ouzo77

    ouzo77 Active Member

    Although I like the music, I'm not really keen on that style of, umm... singing?
    Some kind of melody (beside the solo, which is quite melodic) would have been fine.

    Anyway, the sound of this kind of music is often very similar to Metallica's "...And Justice For All". Very mid-rangey with little to no bottom end.
    I like the punchy and fat sound of modern metal, like the latest Stone Sour or Three Days Grace, which will be my approach to this song.

    This kind of music requires a lot of compression and saturation. Dynamics are more or less achieved with automation, but metal isn't the most dynamic music anyway!

    I think if you don't tag it and don't use the name of the song for the upload it's okay. They can't forbid discussions on our mixes, do they? I will post my mix here for discussion. If they want to disqualify me, so be it.
  15. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Note to self. Don't forget to save your mix once in a while. Three hours gone to waste. facepalm
  16. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    Good luck to you guys! I was thinking of joining the fun, but that's definitely not my style, and I doubt I could really contribute anything original. audiokid's point is a good one - it would be good experience, but I think I'll pass. Besides, when I played the track and explained the contest to my wife, she said she'd divorce me if I had that thing playing for several hours.
  17. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    MY WIFE SAID THE SAME, BOB!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is hilarious.

    Thanks for explaining more on this style ouzo77. I think Metalica sounds incredible compared to this but its also why they need a remix.
    Discussing this will not disqualify us. This is better for them because it only creates more interest. That's what these are all about. Adding buzz to a release.

    I loaded this up and have it ready to expand. It seems like a time waster for me though, but I will chime in here and have fun with you guys. I think I got what I needed out of this one by just importing it up and listening to it.
  18. ouzo77

    ouzo77 Active Member

    So here is my mix. I'm not really sure if it is good, cause I just finished it and I think my ears are bleeding... So please give me some fresh ones.


    I thought the song needed some breaks. That's the only change I did to the arrangement. I used only the original tracks but added a snare sample to give it a bit more punch.
  19. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Cool, I did a quick listen but really quick! I like how you spread it out more but you lost some center focus. Yes, tired ears is a result. Take a break for the day or some hours, come back at it, turn your monitors down low and listen is what I do at this point.
    I would add a smooth curve increase by 2 db somewhere around the 1.6 k to 2.5 area so it lifts the mids evenly in your face and that will get the center focus back.

    I like their mix but to me, its severely lacking bottom and top end as you just help increase. thumb And their drums sound like ass, totally wimpy. The Drums are the target on this.

    Hope that helps.
  20. ouzo77

    ouzo77 Active Member

    Thanks audiokid! I've updated the file on Soundcloud. I boosted 1.4 dB around 2k and raised the vocals a dB.
    If you think it's okay I will leave it at that. I think there's nothing I could improve now.

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