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Firewire interfaces

Discussion in 'Converters / Interfaces' started by ILOVESOUND, Sep 21, 2004.



    Has anyone heard of or had any experience with the RME Fireface 800? Last year, just as I was narrowing the gear list down of what to finally buy, I decided I'd wait a while and see what other systems/solutions developed. I've hardly been online in the past year to keep up with the latest innovations. I did feel somewhat trapped with PTLE and needing to continue down that road. It certainly seemed like the "easiest" solution.

    Would the RME Fireface 800 be a similarily "easy"/simple solution as the 002 only with better sound quality? (RME seems to have a good reputation) Concievably I could get by for a while with a computer, the fireface, a recording app, monitors, and a mic, correct? (i.e. no other outboard gear) OR, is the soundcard and higher end pre-amp combo still the way to go? Can the firewire stuff these days that comes with preamps, compete sound-wise with the soundcard/preamp set up?

    Thank you ~

  2. omaru

    omaru Active Member

    Mmmm - my dilemma too. I'd like to move to a desknote to kill the fan noise and firewire seems to be the way to go, if it's reliable and doesn't make lots of expensive pre chain worthless.

    I too, would like some input in this area from wirewire users.


  3. maintiger

    maintiger Well-Known Member

    I use the motu 828mkii and there are no issues with it- solid, no hassles- it gives you a total of 20 inputs but only 2 pres- there's another 8 analog inputs but
    you have 2 supply the pres
    Also 8 of them are via lightpipe so you will need 8 pres with lightpipe out for those- the remaining 2 are spdif- so in all 20 inputs though only 10 analog- :D
  4. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    No straight ahead firewire devices out there that I know of .... the ones I have seen come bundled with lots of features like questionable mic pres and various spdif, AES and lightpipe crap that is essentially useless ... unless you're looking for an all in one solution ..

    The problems with ADAT lightpipes are well known and the protocol is on it's way out ... even with the advent of SMUX ... Firewire is the new kid in town and "The Next Best Thing" as Vince Gill puts it ..

    I hope manufacturers will respond soon to the clamors and bring out a simple straight ahead 192 capible line in/out, Firewire interface ... something with at least 8 channels and perhaps a spdif connection. A 16 line in/out box would be killer IMO!
  5. inLoco

    inLoco Active Member

    something like the motu 24i/o but firewire instead of the pci card right?

    but doesn't the rosetta 800 works like that kurt? 8 channels with firewire option for connection to your computer?...

    you really think that adat lightpip is dead in a short time?
    i don't agree with you! i think it will be out there for around more 5 years at least!
    it's like the cd! we all know the dvds and the super audio cds but...
    we still stick to the cds or better one, the diskettes! we still use them! i don't but many people do! ok they can go out of market and be obsolete but they will still be around for more 2 years at least!

    but i do think firewire is the future!
    not 192 but 96 in the near future!
  6. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    I want to agree with you in regards to the 96 vs. 192 ... but I don't. The manufacturers (for the most part) will push the issue imo, ... I personally think more stability in the rates would be a good thing .. but I don't sell digital interfaces.

    I think lightpipe is going to die soon ... SMUX is the only answer to get to 96k and I don't think it will work for 192 ..(not sure about that, no flames please). Bit splitting protocols do not seem to have inspired the audio community very much.

    With light pipe, jitter is a big issue unless you use glass cables (can you say expensive?) and it gets worse the longer the cable run is. Manufacturers like it because it carries w/c, which is darned handy and it eliminates the need for w/c connectors and it makes the device easier to set up and operate.

    I believe it does and I think the AD16 and DA16 does too ... but at a high cost ... I was thinking of something a litte more "affordable".
  7. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    Well, I don't think they are as bad as is reported if using fairly short cables and a good clock. If it was as bad as touted, Apogee wouldnt of likely designed it into their latest version of converters (AD-16X/DA-16X)

    I ended up going with the RME PCMCIA card which uses firewire but in RME's format into the Digiface 24-channel ADAT optical (with S/MUX) breakout box that forces me to use external converters. The price was just to good to pass up and it leaves me my firwire interface for either another audio interface or a dedicated hard disk.


  9. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    In your case,the RME is probably perfect ...
  10. Skyman

    Skyman Guest

    I read that the Apogees AD/DA-16x have the option to connect directly to your DAW via Firewire. You need an expansion-card and there you go.
    You would have 16 discrete line-inputs directly into your Workstation.

    The only disadvantage is that you canĀ“t involve other sources like AES ore SPDIF.

  11. inLoco

    inLoco Active Member

    so is that the only difference between the rosetta? which one is better?...

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