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Frequency carving questions!

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Mesa4x12er, May 19, 2007.

  1. Mesa4x12er

    Mesa4x12er Guest

    Hi there everyone! I guess I'm the new guy around here. :D After lurking around here the last week or so I've gotta say I'm really digging this place. On to the tales of horror and woe!

    I know some basics and I usually get a pretty decent clean recording. I have a lot to learn but one of my biggest weaknesses is definately EQing instruments that share frequencies, specifically Kick drum and bass guitar. I seem to get really good thick guitar sounds, but I'm sure there are bass frequencies that are unnecessary in there too.

    I guess I should add I do pretty standard modern rock ala Breaking Benjamin etc. Pretty simple mixes... a few high gain guitars, bass, drums, vocals. I get a pretty big, heavy low-end, but instrument seperation could be better. I want it to be heavy and powerful, but very clean, sperated and defined. Sorry about the redundancy.

    I've read some in the past about frequency carving where you remove certain freqencies from instruments so the overall sound is still there but they get to occupy their own space. The problem is I really don't know where to begin with that kind of stuff. Given the type of music and style, there have gotta be some good starting points and typical frequencies to boost or cut. Sorry about the length of all this! A lot of you seem very knowledgable and any help would be great. Thanks!
     
  2. chips

    chips Guest

    I have just started trying to do this also.
    Something I have found invaluable is the spectrum analyzer that comes with the cubase software I use (although you can buy standalone software version).

    This basically looks at a piece of audio and then shows you (using a graph) what the main pitch of that audio is. I can then use this information to remove that frequency from other instruments.

    For example, the last time I used it showed me that the main frequency of my Kick drum was 56 hz and the main frequency of my bass guitar was 80hz. Using a narrow Q on my parametric eq I removed 56hz ( the kicks main frequency) from the bass and removed a little 80hz (the bass' main frequency) from the kick drum. This gave me quite a bit of clarity and separation.

    Also using a high pass filter on guitars helps to cut out any uneeded bass frequencies there.

    Hope this helps, i am kind of new to these techniques myself !
     
  3. Mesa4x12er

    Mesa4x12er Guest

    Hmmm... I never thought of that. I use Sonar 6.0. Do you happen to know if Sonar has this feature or a standalone plug-in that does not cost too much? Thanks for the great idea man!
     
  4. Mesa4x12er

    Mesa4x12er Guest

    Anyone else? :D
     
  5. check around on here for an "eq cheat sheet" on google or whatever. It gives a pretty good basic guide on what's what to form your own opinions. I would suggest taking notes on settings you like for future reference in your mixes as well.
     
  6. psonicspot

    psonicspot Guest

    Check out http://www.voxengo.com for the great *free* spectrum analyzer called Span.
     
  7. psonicspot

    psonicspot Guest

    http://www.voxengo.com/product/SPAN/

    That will take you right to the plug-in page. Enjoy.
     

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