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Frustrated with choosing a mic... please help

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Black Beethoven, Jun 19, 2006.

  1. Here's the deal... I'm looking to upgrade my microphone and was originally gonna get the AT4047 but then I decided I needed something a bit more universal...

    Listen to the first track "Whatchu Doin" on my MySpace please: http://www.myspace.com/thetruelcd

    I need a microphone that everyone on that song will be using regularly. I rap first... I have the deepest voice... Ice (2nd) sounds like he hasn't been thru puberty yet. Here's what I need in a mic:

    -WARM, WARM, WARM: I dont want transparent mics (Keep the KSM) and it cant be harsh. I need something to help me filter out all of Ice's silibance EARLY

    -I like colored sound... think of Dr. Dre recordings... that old analog feel. I know that has to do with more than just the mic, but u get my drift. Something thick.

    -Budget: Around $500

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Keep in mind I'd be using this mic to make CLEAN recordings I would send to my engineer in NY to mix and master...
  2. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    Warm? Avoid condesor mics and start looking at dynamic and ribbon mic's. I'd bet something like the Sennheiser 421 would be more to your taste and may even be the perfect solution.
  3. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    Warm? Avoid condesor mics and start looking at dynamic and ribbon mic's. I'd bet something like the Sennheiser 421 would be more to your taste and may even be the perfect solution.
  4. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    Try looking into the Electro-Voice RE20/27 a beautiful dynamic microphone suitable both for voices, bass drums and many other applications. You may also want to consider the Beyer M160 ribbon microphone with an additional foam pop-filter? That microphone will warmup Ice Cube! Some people think that condenser microphones are a prerequisite for recording vocals. They are not! Many smart engineers know just how lovely some dynamic microphones can sound. It has nothing to do with budget. Michael Jackson, Bono, Steven Tyler are some of the few multi-platinum rock and roll artists who regularly recorded their lead vocals with a simple SM58 in their hand. While Michael uses a SM 7 on a stand as it is not as convenient to hand hold. So roll out your misconceptions about always having to use "Studio Condenser Microphones".

    I love microphones that are mild and lovely just like the weather
    Ms. Remy Ann David
  5. tallrd

    tallrd Active Member

    out of curiosity, what mic preamp would you be using for tracking these vox? I agree with a nice dynamic mic as well for what you are looking for, but sending that through a nice tube mic pre might add that little bit extra to help you achieve your goal.
  6. therecordingart

    therecordingart Well-Known Member

    This is a shot in the dark....but he's got an Avalon going to Pro Tools.
  7. I really like the Rode NTK for vocals. It's a $500 tube mic. It warms up vocals and is silky smooth and clean across pretty much its whole range. I like a warm, vintage kinda sound on my vocal tracks, and my NTK gives me the sound I like. Everyone's ears are different, and my definition of warm, vintage sound could be very different from yours. But for $500, the NTK is the best vocal tube condenser mic you could buy.

    If you want a more exaggerated warm sound, see if you can find a copy of Antares microphone modeler software. According to Antares its supposed to turn any decent mic into a mic costing 10 times as much. The manufactrer's hype is totally wrong. I don't think any of the settings actually sound like the mic they're supposed to be modeling, but you can get some pretty cool sounds of it. You can max out the fake 'tube saturation' level to coat the vocals with more warmth than anyone would want. On some voices that sounds pretty cool, but I know some people might cringe at hearing it.

    If you want a dynamic mic, the sennheiser 421 sounds really cool on some voices, although I think the NTK sounds better more frequently.

    You shouldn't have any problem finding an sm57 to try out. Pretty much everyone that records anything has at least one. I kinda cringe at hearing it used for vocals, and not just because Bono and Steven Tyler use them. I would cringe at them singing no matter what they used. I just haven't been able to get the vocal sound I want out of my sm57. That doesn't mean the sound isn't in there, hidden somewhere that I could find it if I tried a little harder, it's just that I'm lazy and I'd rather get the sound I want the easy way.
  8. dementedchord

    dementedchord Well-Known Member

    $ .02

    im with remy...try the ev's their real cool for deep voices...kicks/horns/all kinda stuff

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