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general listening monitors.

Discussion in 'Monitoring / Headphones' started by Jtvd78, Mar 27, 2011.

  1. Jtvd78

    Jtvd78 Active Member

    Hey guys. I'm new here. I have just started with video editing, but I also am getting into some music creation. So, I need these to have a semi-wide range of uses. My budget is $500 for a pair, and I need them to be Active powered. I really have no preferences, because I am new to this stuff, and I don't really know much about it. At this price range, is it possible to get a large frequency response, because I don't want to use my sub woofer while I am mixing. It will overpower any monitors easily. Even if I turn it down. Thus, I probably want a monitor with an 8" woofer. Also, I would like to use them for general listening, so they would have to be loud-ish.

    Can these requirements even be filled with just $500? What are my options. Thanks
     
  2. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    You likely don't want to use a sub when mixing you are correct. If you do add a sub to a pair of monitors it needs to all match up properly so a generic sized sub will not mate up with all types of nearfields. In the $500 price range there is a limit on what you can expect. Probably your best bet is some form of KRK's or NHT M-00. If you can find a good set of used JBL's sometimes these can be in your range but even then you have to check them out. Cheap monitors are not good for mixing.
     
  3. A.A.Audio

    A.A.Audio Active Member

  4. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Or confuse.
     
  5. leopoldolopes

    leopoldolopes Active Member

    You also could browse some online stores, get some references and put them over here... that will open a nice discussion and even more opinions on what you should buy!
     
  6. Jtvd78

    Jtvd78 Active Member

    In the linked thread, the yamahas that everyone was talking about are a bit over my price range. Before posting this thread, I was looking at The Behringer TRUTH B3031As. Does anyone have any experience with them or Behringer products in general?

    Also, what are some good Monitor Manufacurers, so I can research them.
     
  7. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Behri^&* in general is garbage. Sometimes you get lucky and a piece will work for a while but you never know when you hit the power button that it will work. The designs are often stolen from quality sources and then sent to China for cheapification. The quality aspect is where I have issue with that company even when the few pieces of their gear that work close to as described.

    The NS10 described in the thread is universally considered a heinous monitor but was one of the first available. The KRK's are a better bet in today's gear. Many manufacturers make a budget line but that doesn't mean they are super either. You were on the right track with HR624mkII or use JBL's or NHT M00's or some Tannoy's (Precision not so much Reveal series). Genelec is of course always good and with Yamaha the MS series is audibly superior to the HS series.
     
  8. DanTheMan

    DanTheMan Active Member

    There is no known reason why a sub cannot be used for monitoring unless you can't figure out how to integrate it and it will be the most difficult thing to get right. Still, it's not close to rocket science. How essential they are depends on the stage of production and how serious you are.

    Dan
     
  9. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    There is no reason to require a sub if your room is tuned your ears are open and your gear is decent. Sometimes a sub is useful but especially in buget gear can agravate existing issues. A sub is not the end all be all. It's another tool.
     
  10. studiosound

    studiosound Guest

    The K&H O300 Monitors (Now bought out by Senn/Neumann) are some of the most accurate near-mid filed monitors I’ve worked with. They are a bit pricy, but you may be able to pick up a used pair for less. Also, they make a smaller 110 version that I believe is under $2000 for the pair. They’re not real loud but extremely accurate and are at an absolute minimum for ear fatigue on long mix sessions. If you can swing either of the models I think you’d be satisfied and they’d make for a good pro investment.
     
  11. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    What you are looking for is a monitor system (which includes the speakers, the amps, and the room) that will produce an even frequency response over the entire audible frequency range. A sub can help this or make things worse. Most rooms have their biggest problems in the low frequencies and a sub is boosting those frequencies. So knowing the budget but not knowing the monitors or the room I'd bet against the sub helping a mix (not certain, just the odds). On the other hand for general listening you are looking for pleasure, not truth. If you want to add a sub to something like a pair of KRKs for general listening that might be to your taste.
     
  12. Studio 232

    Studio 232 Active Member

    Get Adams either A7x's or A8x's they can't be beat for accurate playback they do cost a bit more and you will need a sub with the 7's to get full range but they are worth it.
    After 30 years of using large mains, Tannoy's, Dynaudio's, Genelec's, and many others I have found that the Adams are the most true to your mix what you hear on them is what you are getting
     

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