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getting more spread in guitars

Discussion in 'Guitars' started by tempest1226, Jan 13, 2009.

  1. tempest1226

    tempest1226 Guest

    hey everyone. i hope this is the right spot for this question but here it goes. I noticed even when i double track guitars, one hard left, and one hard right, it still doesnt sound as wide as most cds i pop in the cd player. Im not quite sure what else I can do to really thicken/widen the guitar sound when recording (ps. im recording music along the lines of killswitch engage, dream theater, metallica, etc. ) any help woulld be greatly appreciated. Also i noticed that it seems to become even more centered sounding once its bounced from protools to disc even though I bounce it with settings stereo interleaved, 16bit, 44000. Take care friends
     
  2. jordy

    jordy Active Member

    how hard are you panning may i ask?
    often what i do ( im no trained pro by any means but i've been doing my homework and seem to yield pleasing results) if i want to thicken a rhythm guitar up a bit, i will record the part four seperate times making sure i played tight enough and pan them : 75, -75, 100, -100.- this gives me a good thick stereo wall of sound. but even with just double tracking i can get some decent results.....by "double tracking, you arent just copying and pasting are you?- you wont get the same results that way.
    also on each take, try to maybe adjust the gain or eq a bit...or play a different guitar on the one take....or through a different amp....
    hope that helped
    -jordan
     
  3. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    If you're truly double tracking (as in performing the part twice) and it's panned hard left and right and it's still not wide enough, consider delaying one of the channels by a few ms. 3 to 5 ms does a LOT for this and the impacts on phase should be high enough in frequency that they don't cause any major problems.

    Cheers-
    J
     
  4. GeckoMusic

    GeckoMusic Guest

    1 / 5ms = 200Hz, so you will get destructive interferance at 100, 300, 500 Hz etc.

    However if the track truely is double tracked and not a copy, and the delay is 100% wet there will be no phaseing issue.
     
  5. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    oops. My mental math was off by an order of 10. Cursed '0' got away from me.
     
  6. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    I find another way to make guitars sound huge is to include sound very short plate like reverb. But very very short so as not to be perceived as reverb. It's mono in. Stereo out. This short reverb is very dense and will provide you with a larger sounding space. You can include panning to improve directional information. Cross coupled, with a second guitar, will make it more than huge. Easy on the EQ as that can do more damage than help.

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