Perhaps wrongly titled. Perhaps I mean 'creating room so the tricks don't have to be used'. What I am talking about is queries like the recent query on recording vocals and getting that warm, fat sound. The answer given was to triple the vocal, one left, one right, one centre. Or when I record guitar. On a tight timescale, myself and a lot of others just record loads of it. More guitar - especially distorted electric - often means better sound. Doing this can of course give a much bigger, fuller sound - but at the expense of the stereo mix. As we know, more is rarely better. With jmm22's recent thread on masking and my theory on the limited areas of space in a mix in the response, it got me thinking about creating room. When I'm preparing a mix for the balancing stage, I'll go through and carve out everything I don't need. Usually in a fairly major way, on group tracks, using a pretty good equalizer so I can just haul out chunks of subsonic noise and top end - in this way I use my usual linear thinking on mixes and say I am looking at a frequency range spectrum, I will call those ranges: Low - LowMid - Mid - HighMid - High For Kick drum I'll carve away everything but low and maybe allow it a little click in Mid. For electric guitars I'll carve away all but Mid. Etc etc. (On a side note, I'd love to know a way to be able to genuinely A/B this in Cubase - by bouncing those tracks down via my MP and making 2 big groups I can *almost* do this). The effect for me is a cleaner and more toned, buff mix. Tricks like the ones mentioned above work in a converse way - they are adding real overpowering depth to certain parts. I guess they work more in the pan and perception areas of the mix cloud, but are there alternatives that offer more reductive, artistic ways of doing the same kind of things? One of the tricks I use once I'm through the large-scale carving is making 'indents' for things. For example if a vocal won't bed down, increasing a little in the instrumental mix at 2-3k and reducing it in the vocal, or vice versa. Again, this seems a very heavy-handed way of creating impact. What are tricks that other people use to try and create space, or add impact? Are there other ways people can suggest to make these less destructive to overall timbre?