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Ghost of a chance...

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Doublehelix, Dec 1, 2002.

  1. Doublehelix

    Doublehelix Well-Known Member

    Anyone have any experience with Symantec's Ghost program? I have had several issues with my system lately that a recovery program would have been very helpful with. Here are a few specific questions:

    1) Does it work over a network?
    2) Can it store multiple snapshots, or just one set?
    3) Does it backup everything on the disk if requested, or just the configuration information? If it does backup everything, how does it differ from a "normal" backup program?
    4) Does it compress the data?
    5) Do you like it/is it a good program?
    6) Any other suggestions for similar programs?
    7) Can it be installed *after* configuring your system, or does it need to be installed first so it can track the changes?
    8) Does it automatically track changes?

    Whew! Lots of QX...I'd appreciate any responses!
  2. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    OK...Ghost is a "great" program. I use it all the time.
    1) Does it work over a network?
    Why yes it does. Set the destination or source to Network and browse for the drive. Catch: Must be a FAT32 drive to be written and read from.

    2) Can it store multiple snapshots, or just one set?
    Yes, but you must do each one when you want it.

    3) Does it backup everything on the disk if requested, or just the configuration information? If it does backup everything, how does it differ from a "normal" backup program?
    Yes, it backs up the entire drive! Everything you install is compressed into an image source that only ghost can read. This way you do not have to reinstall the whole friggen OS. A recovery takes 10 minutes tops when done from a hard drive. It can be sent directly to a CD but usually it's more than one CD as it spans it. Hard drives are the way to go for this. I have a dedicated FAT32 drive solely for ghosting. I have a plain XP ACPI and Standard PC install. I have a full ACPI and Standard PC ghost. So if I want to switch it takes 10 minutes to revert rather than the hour and half for the OS and driver installs.

    Well, my answer to question 3 just answered the other ones except for the one regarding it tracking changes...no...it does not.
    I believe Dantz Retrospect can do that with daily DATA backups but not image back ups.
  3. Doublehelix

    Doublehelix Well-Known Member

    As usual Gary, you are the man! One question (you didn't think I'd let you get away that easily did you??):

    My OS drive is NTFS, so I guess I am screwed.

    Any other suggestions??? Someone at Staples mentioned BACKUP EXE since they were out of Ghost(I will go searching for it now...).
  4. Doublehelix

    Doublehelix Well-Known Member

    I just searched the Symantec site, and there is no mention of the FAT32 requirement. I wonder if you have an older version or something Gary?

    Here is a system requirement link:


    They call this the "Corporate Edition 7.5"
  5. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    It can read an NTFS drive to image from but to wirte to a drive that drive must be FAT32. So, create a partition or allocate a drive solely for FAT32 and you'll be all set to go.
    That's the version I have as well. Well, I think mine is 7.0 but should be the same thing
  6. bgober

    bgober Guest

    once again Opus speaks the truth. if it weren't for ghost i would have been so screwed so many times.
  7. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Norton Ghost 2003 WRITES TO NTFS DRIVES!!! YEEHAW!!! This is great news! Now you don't have to worry about partitioning a drive to 32GB if large than that size to get FAT32 recognized under the DOS environment.
  8. Doublehelix

    Doublehelix Well-Known Member

    I just bought ghost yesterday, and I am reading the manual a bit before installing, but it looks great! After all the crap I have been through lately with my system and Cubase SX 1.05, I will never again leave my system out to dry! I always backup my data (audio files), but I have never backed up the entire computer before, and when it crashes, it is almost not worth starting over again, it is so much work. Ghost should solve that, and for $69.95 its a steal (actually, there is a $20 mail-in rebate, so I will get it for $49.95) :)
  9. Doublehelix

    Doublehelix Well-Known Member

    Well, I have Ghost installed and running just fine, but for some reason, I cannot backup to a networked HD. I have tried everything I can think of. Their tech support is a pay-by-the-minute service which really sucks.

    I ended up backing up to CDs, which is a real pain, it takes 9 CDs, plus the boot disk, and this is just for the basic OS drive install that I did to get back up and running after the crash.

    My question to all of you that are using Ghost:

    What medium are you backing up to? CDs? Another computer? Another HD in the same computer?

    I thought about adding another HD to the same computer, but that is not as safe as a remote location, obviously. Plus, do I really want to add another HD to the controller as a slave to my Audio HD? Right now, I have my OS drive (master) and CD ROM (slave) on one channel of the controller, and the Audio Drive on the other channel by itself. I have always heard that the audio drive should be on that channel by itself. What if the additional drive where only used to backup using Ghost, would that still be a no-no?

  10. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Well, how do you have your network log in setup? Do you log into it when you turn on your computer? Is your server machine a "real" server or just a regular XP or WIn2K or whatever OS? If it's a server(Win2k server or XP server OS) than you could probably do it since you log into it and then ghost would recognize the network status.
    I use a fake server(in other words a regular XP install) that just does internet sharing. It doesn't have DNS or DHCP server on it.
    So if it's a regular install and not a server install than add a dedicated ghost drive. I do that and have no problems at all. Mine is in a removable bay system so I can add it in when I need to. The hell with CD's as it takes a 1/4 of the time to restore or make from a hard drive
  11. For those folks that have not already bought Ghost or Norton System Works Pro etc (which includes it, as well as bunch of other handy tools), be sure to check out mwave.com, as I bought it there for $15!

    Just bought another WD1200JB for the backup purposes. Nice one Opus, as I was tired of backing to CD's, and DVD's are still a little too pricey.

  12. A handy online guide to Ghost:

  13. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    I think I know how you can access that drive...in your network places icon open it up and map a certain drive as a network drive...that ought to help out some!
  14. Doublehelix

    Doublehelix Well-Known Member

    My network is setup with shared HDs (in a workgroup) through a Linksys Cable Router, which acts as a DHCP router. I have "mapped" my network HDs, and they are all Windows 2000 machines, and all require a password. But, if you use the same username and password on each machine, you can map the drives automatically.

    I know so little about Networks and their jargon that I have a tough time describing my problem, and how my system is setup.

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