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Ghost tracks

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Jay O'Neill, Sep 5, 2015.

  1. Jay O'Neill

    Jay O'Neill Active Member

    Hey everyone. I don't know if anyone else has run into this problem but it seems like I've been getting an awful lot of ghost tracks when I'm working on a song... It happens at least once in the last 5 songs I recorded and it is driving me up the wall bc I spent so much time into these songs. I tried deleting the file from the Explorer window but that still doesn't help.. I've tried recording over it but to no avail. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    Jay
     
  2. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    Uhm..... what is a "ghost track"?
     
  3. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    You need to tell us what recording software you use and what you consider a ghost track.
    In a engineer language a ghost track is a temporary track that will be deleted when along the realisation of a project.
    We can record a band live and consider those tracks 'ghost tracks' then record each instrument seperatly while deleting the 'ghosts' one by one.
    (ex: I delete the bass ghost and record the definitive bass track and move to another instrument to do the same)

    I we regard this strickly from the computer aspect. You need to know where your audio files are created on your hard drive when you record. When you want to delete a file, that file needs not to be in use. So it's imperative that you close your recording project and then go to the folder and delete files.
    At that moment, you're ghost files may not even exist anymore if they are temporary files created by the recording software.
    Ghost files may also be what represent the visual wave drawing of the audio. Many software save the audio file and that drawing separately.

    Make us a print screen if you have trouble to put words on it ;)
     
  4. Jay O'Neill

    Jay O'Neill Active Member

    Thank you for the quick reply. I'm using the newest version of studio one professional. It's version 3.02.34331.
    Whats happening is if I record say a guitar track and I'm not happy with how it sounds I'll simply delete the take from the guitar track for instance and record it again as many times as is necessary until I get the take I want. Whats been happening is from time to time the original bad track will still be heard even though it's been deleted and nothing is showing in the workspace. I've tried deleting the file from the Explorer like you suggested but I can still hear the original invisible take.
    Thanks again for the quick reply,
    Jay
     
  5. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    I'm with pcrecord. Process of elimination . (y)

    Interesting.Your issue sounds really bazaar and it could be that a track is still there, but hidden.

    Not that this is related but I have a related ghost "effect" story.
    When studying a shootout of a bunch on track provided by someone.... I've heard ghost effects in one of the Pro Tools sessions where a reverb aux didn't turn off on a left side. Even though the verb effect was inactive, it still remained present in the session (very subtle) .

    Sometimes rebooting a session or rebuilding it as a new session will solve problems you can not explain.
     
  6. Jay O'Neill

    Jay O'Neill Active Member

    Its a deleted recording on a track that still can be heard but its not shown in the work space.
     
  7. Jay O'Neill

    Jay O'Neill Active Member

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  8. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    Hmmm.... well you learn something new everyday... 30+ years in the biz and I'd never heard that term before.
     
  9. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    Ok I have a better Idea. Make sure you remove all the Record flag on all the tracks except the on you are recording on.. I'm guessing that you are recording the same signal on multiple tracks and when you delete one, there is still others present...
     

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