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Discussion in 'Recording' started by jhagertybhs, Nov 10, 2003.

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  1. jhagertybhs

    jhagertybhs Guest

    I have gotten a lot of info about mic pres from this forum, all very usefull thank you. I have to ask this though, I am in the market for a good pre. Right now I am only set up for 1 maybe 2 vocalists. I have been studying the Grace 101 and am currious if anyone has heard it, used it, knows anything about it. I am also currious if I would be better off to hold off, save a few more bucks and go for something like the 201 model (which other than the power supply) wonder why it costs more than $650 more than 2 101's!! Any info is greatly appreciated!!
     
  2. Bobby Loux

    Bobby Loux Active Member

    I have a friend that uses a Grace 101 with a tube (NTK) mic and really likes his results for vocals. (and I'd agree) very claen transparent pre

    however the 101 ($579.00) isnt a single channel version of the 201 ($1,800.00) ...the 201 is a two channel version of the 801 ($4,300.00)

    here's some feature differences from Grace designs site

    101 features:
    .Fully balanced transformerless mic input and high impedance instrument input
    .Balanced xlr and 1/4" TRS outputs
    .Ultra clean 48 Volt phantom power
    .11 position precision silver contact rotary gain switch
    .High quality conductive plastic 10dB output attenuator
    .75Hz 12dB/octave transitional Thompson-Butterworth high pass filter
    .Two color LED peak meter shows signal present and peak conditions
    .No electrolitic capacitors in the signal path.
    .Minimal internal signal wiring
    .Ultra high resolution transimpedance gain stage
    .High precision active balanced output circuit

    201 Features:
    Fully balanced and transformerless design
    • Fast, musical transimpedance amplifier architecture
    • No electrolytic capacitors in the signal path
    • 24 position gold contact rotary switch gain controls
    • 10 dB trim control
    • 48V phantom power, 20 dB attenuator and phase reverse on each
    channel
    • Convenient two color led lights green with signal and red for overload
    • High current output drives long cable runs and loads down to 50 ohms
    • Ultra low noise internal torodal power supply
     
  3. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Bobby Loux,
    Thanks for pointing that out. I knew there were some differences but I thought the 101 and the 201 were basically the same design but seeing your post made me realize they are completly different. Thanks for noteing that and straightening me out on that. My mistake .. :D Kurt
     
  4. Bobby Loux

    Bobby Loux Active Member

    I'm not sure I see where you made a mistake?

    the "only" thing I dont like about the grace 101 (which means absolutely nothing) ...it reminds me of those Revell models I used to build as a kid, where they would chrome plate "plastic" ..the 101's face plate looks a bit "shiney" in person.
     
  5. missilanious

    missilanious Guest

    thank you for pointing that out, I've heard and loved the sound of there 801, so basiclly I've allready heard and loved the sound of the 201, but I still haven't heard the 101, which i was thinking of buying because I though 101 was basicllt the same disign as the 801 in a mono unit.
     
  6. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    I'll have to see if I can get a 101 and a 201 from Grace to check out. I don't care for the wall wart thing with the 101 and I am very suspicious of anything that doesn't have a large power supply but that doesn't mean my mind can't be changed. If it sounds great, that's all that matters..
     
  7. clintrubber

    clintrubber Guest

    On the subject of wall-warts, the 201 & 101 are obviously already different w.r.t. their supplies.
    Can't imagine the 101 doesn't use a DC/DC converter while the 201 is stated to have a linear ('old fashioned big) supply.

    FWIW, the proof's in the ...etc,

    Peter
     

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