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graphiq eq in insert

Discussion in 'Recording' started by nillox, Apr 17, 2008.

  1. nillox

    nillox Guest

    hey guys,
    i was looking to add a stereo eq to my fp10 and put it in the send/return for channel 1 and 2. i could only find a single channel parametric eq but lots or graphic eqs. so i was wonndering would a graphic eq be ok, such as a dbx 215. i know its used mostly between the speakers and power amp, would the levels be ok to use in the send and return in the fp10
     
  2. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    The levels would be fine. The real question is - what's the goal? Is this for recording or for live sound? If for live sound - go for it. If for recording, you're only hurting yourself by doing this.

    I can't think of a single EQ under $1k that would be worth inserting into a path that couldn't be bested by even a modestly priced one from people like Wave Arts and others.
     
  3. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    I don't think anyone would put an eq between the speakers and the power amp or anywhere in the master stereo out.

    A graphic eq in an insert would be fine but you should consider either setting up a patchbay so that you can insert them as necessary or just patch them in as needed. You don't want to have those in the path unless they're absolutely necessary.

    You should be able to find a stereo parametric eq which would probably be a lot more useful than a graphic.

    http://www.sweetwater.com/c473--EQ_-_Parametric_EQs

    They range from dirt cheap to "time to mortgage my house". Remember that you get what you pay for.
     
  4. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    You'd be surprised. :(

    I see this a LOT on piss-poor church setups and more than a few home-recording rigs.

    I actually had a young local engineer (who thinks he knows a LOT more than he really does) why I didn't have a 31 band graphic EQ and a MB Compressor in my mastering chain...
     
  5. nillox

    nillox Guest

    ya id want it for recording. i didnt want to do to much processing on my computer and save some for other processing/tracks.
     
  6. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    yeah...just skip that step altogether then.

    No graphic EQ should be inserted into a mic/preamp path. It's like ordering a surf-and-turf with Filet Mignon and Live Maine Lobster and getting a glass of Boone's Farm to go along with it...
     
  7. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    The only exception to this rule are the few high-end professional consoles that offered graphic equalizer's. API had the 560 graphic, which utilized R/C based equalization. Whereas Sphere of Chatsworth California also offered a graphic utilizing all ferrite core inductor, like the Neve's.

    Both types were awesome in the hands of skilled professionals. I really miss my Sphere graphics. But I would never stick in a PA speaker correction equalizer in any insert on any console. By comparison my Neve is so simple, even simpler than many PA consoles but still gives me all that I want for good sound.

    Remember the best signal path is a piece of straight wire. So the straighter you are the better.

    I'm certainly not straight
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  8. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    Now...our setup ain't too hot. You're saying there should be no EQs attached to the mains in any way?
    There is the 10band onboard one I use but we don't have an external one. That said I was gonna see about getting a stereo one (start a rack) for use on mains, auxes, channels, whatever.
     

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