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Guitar amp cabinet question

Discussion in 'Guitars' started by BobRogers, Jan 18, 2009.

  1. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    I'd like suggestions for a guitar amp extension speaker cabinet that I could use to isolate my Matchless Hurricane (15 amp) or Fender Blues Jr. (after adding a speaker out jack). I'd be using it for jazz, folk, county, and blues right now. This would be used primarily for recording so I'd like it to be a single speaker and either have no grille cloth or a removable grille. I'm planning on putting the cabinet in a separate room, so it could be one that would be useful on stage, but I'm open to the idea of a cabinet designed specifically for isolation like this one by Randall.

    I could make a cabinet, of course, but I'm kind of busy right now. If I put off the purchase long enough, I'll probably build one this summer. So if you want to throw in suggestions for plans that would be welcome.

    Thanks, Bob
     
  2. Greener

    Greener Guest

    You could build an iso cab and put the entire amp and cab in it. Like a soundproof box in your tracking room.
    This would keep you from butchering your amps and having to run long cable runs to other parts of the house.

    Just an idea, it may not suit your purposes but it would mine.
     
  3. Kapt.Krunch

    Kapt.Krunch Well-Known Member

    I don't think I'd put a tube amp in a small box...may get a bit toasty in there. Besides, how would you easily adjust any controls, and the power cord and guitar cable would all have to make it in there? A cab with just a speaker and mic would be better.

    Also, I know the Blues. Jr. already has a "speaker out" jack, and would suspect the Matchless does, also, so you don't need to add one. Just unplug the amp speaker, and run a speaker cable to the iso-cab.

    Kapt.Krunch
     
  4. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    It is true. The Blues Jr does indeed have a speaker jack. The internal speaker does have a pigtail and does plug into the chassis. Do NOT attempt to add another jack for a cabinet to this amp. It will overheat something bad. Failure is its next step. I do, however , occasionally plug it into a 16ohm cab. It operates at half the wattage and does get flippin hot but it sounds great. I am a professional so dont try this at home. Do not plug it into a 4ohm load whatever you do.
     
  5. sshack

    sshack Active Member

    Bob,
    I'm not sure about iso specific cabs like the one that you listed above from Randall, but if you just want to look at some cabinet options, I used this company some time ago to get an extension cab for my Orange head (yes, I wanted an orange cab too) and they were nothing but stellar to deal with on price, communication and quality.

    http://www.lopoline.com/home.html

    Find the speaker of your choice and you could be golden.

    Hope that helps a bit.
     
  6. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info and suggestions guys. I had forgotten that the Jr. had a pigtail and speaker jack. The Matchless has an 8 ohm jack and a 4 Ohm jack since it came as either a 1x12 or a 2x10 configuration. (Mine is 2x10).

    Sshack - thanks for the reference to Lopo. Definitely looks like a good option for me. Might even go with the kit if I decide to build. So many options. I think that I'd go for a 1x12 cabinet. Gotta pick a speaker. Probably a Celestion since I like the ones in my Matchless so much. Any personal opinions on the various models?
     
  7. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Look into the Weber company .Lots of options there.
     
  8. sshack

    sshack Active Member

    Man, chasing speakers is like chasing the wind sometimes. Just like any other GAS, you can spend more time on the chase than actually playing your instrument (or recording for that matter).

    To that end, I wouldn't have a suggestion for you. Too many things are subjective...guitar, picks, pickups, tubes, EQ settings....you know all of this. If you like Celestion's then start with a Celestion. Dave pointed out Weber, I have everything from Celestions to Eminence to Jensen in my amps.

    Just find something that you can live with and go with it; that's my motto.

    But for the actual cab, yeah, Lopo did me right. I got an oversized 1x12 for my Rockerverb 50 and stuck an Eminence Tonker in there and I was still under 2 bills I think.

    Best of luck.
     
  9. Groff

    Groff Active Member

    No personal experience, but have heard some rumors.

    http://www.tonetubby.com/ts.html
     
  10. dvdhawk

    dvdhawk Well-Known Member

    I heard the tone tubby speakers just a few days ago. Very warm, very sweet sounding, especially with the Dr. Z amp. they were connected to. Worth a listen.
     
  11. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    I'm now thinking about going with a Weber. I've heard several amps with Webers and liked them all pretty well. I think I'd still be going for something like the British series Blue Dog - which maybe is too similar to a Celestion. I tend to think the chimey Vox-like sounds go better with the cleaner, quieter sounds I've been recording lately. Maybe later I'll get one of the Vintage series - 12F150 or something - for more of a Tweed/Blackface sound.

    Here's a couple of 2nd hand wisdom that I'm not sure about and I'd like people to comment on.

    Since the speaker is going to be used fairly quiet with pretty clean sounds:
    1. It is not worth paying for AlNiCo over ceramic. (That is, AlNiCo shows its worth in hard driven high volume situations.)
    2. I should choose a higher wattage speaker. (That is, higher wattage translates into more headroom and warmer sounds at lower volumes.)

    I don't have enough experience swapping speakers to have an educated opinion on that. Just things I've read. Any comments?
     

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