Guitar reverb pedal

Discussion in 'Tracking / Mixing / Editing' started by jg49, Jun 12, 2009.

  1. jg49

    jg49 Well-Known Member

    I ordered a Conrad amp, it comes without a reverb unit. Actually Conrad offered to put one in it but I was concerned, because it is such a small cabinet, about the length of the springs. So I decided that I would buy a reverb pedal. I have done some research and come up with a few Boss RV-5, Holy Grail, Line 6 Verbzilla, Digitech Digiverb. I am really only looking for a spring reverb sound just good, clean, something that does not suck the tone out of the signal. Any thoughts?
     
  2. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    Expensive, fragile, bulky. But this is what everyone else is trying to sound like.
     
  3. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    Also something to look at:
    Analogman website, locate the Reverb-a-mate. Awesome spring box..
     
  4. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    I saw Conrad last night and he told me about your order. If he says he can put the verb in the box, he means it'll work with no issues... However, the Fender spring as well as the Analogman spring are really the sound of reverb as we know it. And amazingly enough (imagine) Conrad also can build the separate spring verb unit with tubes to drive it and a dwell control to die for. I have personally played one he built. It was amazing.

    Its all about budget at some point. One nice thing about a separate spring unit with the in and out drivers and controls that really work is the ability to use it as a recording device through a bus or as an insert on a track (if you have a board)....Having uber control of these things will amaze you at the versatility and the depth you can achieve for any source wanting this very special sound. Think Mini-Moog solo sounds with a slappy spring on it! Analog heaven. Or how about deeply effected smashing snare noises? A spring and a heavy gate(frontwards or backwards).....ahhhhhh seventies nirvana.
     
  5. jg49

    jg49 Well-Known Member

    Right now I think I can only budget about $150.00. Most of the seperate spring units seem to start about $300.00. I was thinking of making one myself not sure how much electronics are really involved. I have a Fender Spring unit in an Ultimate Chorus solid state amp that has been kicking around between me and my younger brothers for about 15 years now. We keep it at our practice space for unexpected guests. It has starting cutting in and out but does not do it all the time so it is hard to have a tech check it out. Can't trust to gig with. Can't sell it to anyone like that, kinda unfair. Just been keeping it figuring sooner or later part it out 2-12" speakers, etc. Maybe just turn it into a speaker cab.
    Meanwhile going the stompbox route, not a huge investment and always seem to be able to dump a good pedal for a reasonable amount used. Use it for a year $75.00 pretty affordable.
     
  6. soapfloats

    soapfloats Well-Known Member

    While not a guitar player myself, I have been pretty happy with Holy Grail when brought in. It may not be the most traditional reverb, but it is a monster.
     
  7. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    In that case, the Holy Grail is a good place to start. The Boss is a nice pedal also though it is a little flat sounding. Will last a long time though.

    The problem with stuff in this range is the lack (generally) of a true bypass. It will suck tone just being plugged in. And with that tone-monster you're getting we wouldnt want that.

    Look at the Carl Martin site. I'm sure theres something there for everyone and those pedals are all outstanding. I have a couple myself.
     
  8. song4gabriel

    song4gabriel Active Member

    i tried on a whim, the brand new Digitech Hardwire RV-7a few months ago. It is real nice (actually has a liceneed Lexicon Verb in it). Very analog. The Spring and Hall are fantastic. I actually got rid of my Holy Grail after I got it. No gain suck either (buy the a/c adapter)

    I know your thinking ..."digitech"?. I though it too (I am a snob) But it will surprise you.

    And its in your price range too.
     
  9. jg49

    jg49 Well-Known Member

    I went to GC yesterday and tried out some pedals but it was real frustrating trying to listen to reverb pedals with the fricking noise level in the store. The Holy Grail pedal seemed to be the most subtle, but the one they had in the store kept cutting in and out. Brand new and if you kicked it the signal would come back. They said "Yeah one of the other sales people said that it was doing the same thing the other day." You think that they would take it off the shelf but this GC.
    I bought a Boss to try at home maybe I'll get the Grail and the Hardwire and do the A/B/C thing at home against the spring in my Deluxe.
     
  10. song4gabriel

    song4gabriel Active Member

    "The Holy Grail pedal seemed to be the most subtle, but the one they had in the store kept cutting in and out"

    they are notorious for that
     
  11. jg49

    jg49 Well-Known Member

    Well I purchased four different pedals, Boss RV-5, Digitech RV-7, Holy Grail, and Boss FDR1 (Fender Deluxe Reverb) and did a side by side comparison. I agree with Song4gabriel the Digitech pedal sounded the best. The Boss RV-5 had almost an identical sound but seemed like it drained tone, the Holy Grail was Ok but for $40.00 more the digitech which is smaller has a much greater variety of reverbs, plate, spring, hall, gated etc. and claims to have a true bypass. The Fender pedal was by far the worst of the lot. So three go back, one stays. Oh and I checked out the Carl Martin site, cool stuff but no reverb pedal. He says he is working on one but has no idea when it will be ready.
    Meanwhile Conrad says that the amp will be ready next week but I will have to wait three weeks to put together the rest of the money, he does not take credit cards BUMMER!
     
  12. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    You're getting the Mini? Yes/No?


    Alos let everyone know how it sounds. I just sound like a droolin shill when I talk about em.

    You do know that if it needs tweeking he'll do that to tailor the sound.....
     
  13. jg49

    jg49 Well-Known Member

    It is a Mini, with tone and master volume control. I will let everyone know what I think next month when it gets here.
     

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