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Harmonised vocals

Discussion in 'Vocals' started by Terabyte, Aug 1, 2005.

  1. Terabyte

    Terabyte Guest

    Hi,
    See on alot of tracks artificial harmonised vocals
    How is it done?
    I've tried copying and pasting samples and altering the second one up in pitch.. but it sounds um... somewhat strange.. like a hissing sound... and also.. the harmonies don't always work

    so how is it done?
     
  2. TheArchitect

    TheArchitect Active Member

    Could you give an example? Not sure exactly what you are looking for.
     
  3. You need a good vocal processor for that. A really good one will let you input the chords of the song or the vocal notes with MIDI and then allow you to adjust the harmony by selecting the interval. Usually, down a minor 3rd (if in a major key) or up a major 6th (if in a minor key) will work exceptionally well. And, there is always a perfect 4th either direction. If doing blues, go up a major 7th or 9th (2nd plus one octave).
     
  4. Terabyte

    Terabyte Guest

    anyone know a good vocal processor?
     
  5. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty happy with the results I get from any one of the three Eventide's I own.
     
  6. jonnyc

    jonnyc Member

    What you really need to do is just overdub your harmony parts instead of relying on a machine to do it for you. Just record the main vocal track and go back and record harmony parts on top of that until they're to your liking. Thats the easiest way to do it without spending a grand.
     
  7. therecordingart

    therecordingart Well-Known Member

    Myself I'm more of a fan of doing it the old fashioned way, but I think Waves has a plugin that will do what you want. I remember playing with Waves plugins that the bundle had that effect in it.
     
  8. gdoubleyou

    gdoubleyou Well-Known Member

    to me a lot of the elctronic processors sound synthetic, to create a more natural sound take a look at melodyne.

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  9. therecordingart

    therecordingart Well-Known Member

    I tell my clients off of the bat that I don't use Autotune or Melodyne for anything other than effect if the mood of the song calls for it....I refuse to "fix" vocals. Why?

    1. If the singer can't sing it....why should he fool himself and everyone else when he could work on becoming a great singer. I think Autotune type programs have given hope to horrible musicians when in the past you either "had it" or worked your ass off to "get it." There is a lot to be said about feeling proud of yourself when you work hard to nail the perfect take. No plugin in the world can give you that feeling!

    2. The nuances of your voice should be a part of your character....look at Kurt Cobain....horrible singing voice....but a lot of character and energy. Look at Freddy Mercury....terrific voice, great harmonies, and almost sounded robotic on his own. These guys had one thing in common...they worked with what they had the best that they could.

    3. I hate numbering the points I try to make that are completely off topic from the original post!
     
  10. tedw6

    tedw6 Guest

    harmony vocals

    I usually sing 'em myself. I can't hear the harmonies so I figure them out and record a midi track which I output to a synth. I sing along with the synth.

    I've also used and have been somewhat successful with TC-Helicon VoiceOne using the shift function. The actual singing overdubs usually sound better.

    Ted
     
  11. A fan of the real deal...

    As many have said, the best thing you can do is record the real thing. In the time you posted to this forum you could have had it done. If you want the harmony to sound natural yet very tight, pan it dead center with the main vocal and squash it to get a good steady dynamic.

    The machine-made double-tracking epidemic is a result of poor singers in dire need of Pro Tools tricks to make them sound good, not for effects.
     

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