Has anyone heard SACD?

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by rdub, Nov 6, 2003.

  1. rdub

    rdub Guest

    I just did, and it sounded pretty damn good. Good fat low end, sick definition and imaging, highs that don't hurt. Who else has heard one of these things?
  2. Don Grossinger

    Don Grossinger Distinguished past mastering moderator Active Member

    I've heard & worked with the format. I agree!! Boy, what a listening treat!!

    The Rolling Stones SACDs are wonderful. You must check out Ya Yas, B Banquet, Let It Bleed at the very least.

    The Dylan series is also really great. Blood on the Tracks, Blonde on Blonde: wow!

    I hope the Beatles catalog is treated to this remastering process.

    If we're really lucky, perhaps new stuff will be recorded & released this way as well and not subject to the level wars we all dislike so much.

    Great audio rules!
  3. by

    by Guest

    DSD recorders are out now too, and aren't that expensive. I wonder how many of those SACD 're-issues' were rerecorded from analog and how many were just up-ed in sample rate then converted?
  4. sserendipity

    sserendipity Member

    Check this out:

    Pioneer DV-563A


    SACD for under $200!!!

    I'm not suggesting that you are getting a fantastic peice of gear - Pioneer sells themselves sell a ~$1,000 version of the same player with better components, but everyone seems pleased with this unit.

    [ November 07, 2003, 03:54 PM: Message edited by: Jonathan El-Bizri ]
  5. joe lambert

    joe lambert Distinguished Member

    SACD is a great sounding format. We have worked on a few titles here. The real benefits come when DSD is used from recording through to the end process.

    But also if you have good anolog mixes and then remaster through DVD it sounds great. I haven't heard the Stones discs yet but I'm looking forward to it.
  6. rdub

    rdub Guest

    great. i'm glad the big ears guys agree. I listened to Begggars Banquet and Blood on the Tracks. I've never heard "You cant always get what you want" sound like that - the subtle gtr/piano riffs buried in the middle, the hand percussion frenzy - charlie's drum fills - bananas! Here's another question - I haven't heard the new DVD audio format. Has anyone been able to A/B SACD and DVD audio? Is DVD audio the same concept as SACD? Do they sound the same?
  7. Don Grossinger

    Don Grossinger Distinguished past mastering moderator Active Member

    I think it's currently impossible to do an A/B test as nothing has been released on both SACD & DVD-A yet. Everything's one or the other.

    I have listened to a few DVD-A discs as well: Dead's Workingman's & American Beauty & Steely Dan's last new CD. The instruments sound really good. The mixes sounded wierd in surround. The Dan had rhythm guitar coming from the left rear channel and other mix oddities. That is not the fault of the format though. The Dylan SACDsin surround are done with more subtlty- rears are not full of instruments, just ambience I think. Folks just have to decide how best to use the capabilities. I'm just not used to being in the middle of the band- maybe it's me?

    Both formats are high bitrate high definition capable & both sound great. SACD at first did not do surround, they both do now. It just depends what record company puts out the product. Sony products do not support anything but SACD.

    Listening to the SACD masters of the Stones in the studio off the hard drive was quite a revilation. I am very familiar with those records: I grew up on them. I heard instruments & textures that I had never heard before.
  8. sserendipity

    sserendipity Member

    Are you opining that an all DSD signal chain would be >even< better than one captured with quality analog gear?
  9. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    I was looking at Virgin NY ( nice CD store) and saw a Peter Gabriel SACD for just $5!!!!
  10. sserendipity

    sserendipity Member

    Apparently Tower records is lumping the SACD version of Dark Side of the moon along with it's normal cd version, and charging accordingly.

    Now, where did I read that?
  11. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    Most SACD's are dual format so they can play in a regular cd player. I think it became to confusing for the average consumer so they simplified it. I like both formats and can't decide what I like better. I think DVD-A is more user friendly in that most mastering engineers can use their existing digital gear.
  12. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    Micahel, the Gabriel album I mentioned was labeled, plays at SACD decks only..

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