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HD Failure and what to do now

Discussion in 'Computing' started by audiokid, Sep 17, 2014.

  1. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Damn, I was away for the weekend, came back to find my mastering DAW squealing. It won't boot and wont fix. It had only one drive, partitioned. I can see my files on the drive via the recovery disc so I'm now wondering how to recover my data? Do I install a new HD for the OS, and put the bad HD in another slot. Will I be able to grab the files off of it?

    Windows 7 Pro 64
  2. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    Bad luck.

    If you can boot the recovery CD and from there see files on the suspect disk, then it's still spinning and working to a large extent as a drive, at least for the moment. Assuming that the drive partitions are OS and data, and that you need to back up the data partition on another drive, then I would connect this disk as a secondary drive in your other PC and hope that it holds up long enough to copy off what you need from the data partition. Then buy TWO new drives for your mastering PC: OS and data.

    If you can get hold of new drives quickly, you could wait and set up the new OS drive and the new data drive, and then plug in the suspect drive and do the data partition transfer directly on to the new data drive. I would try to minimize the power-on time of the suspect drive.

    What was the squealing noise? Did the mouse become disconnected?
  3. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    That Sucks, Chris.

    We are talking about a "standard" HD here? The drive that failed isn't an SS drive, right? Just asking because based on what I've learned from my computer geeky friends, once those SS drives go, they're gone.

    If you do try to do this yourself, I agree with Bos that you'll want to limit the time you use the bad drive... the more you use it - even looking for files - the more your chances of total failure increase. If you can get a new drive, plug the old one in as a secondary and then do the transfer once, this would likely be your best scenario.

    Or, you might want to get a cloud account of some kind, and try to back it up to that... Bos or the other smart computer guys here may or may not agree with that.

    Might I suggest that instead of trying to do this yourself, it may be best for you to look at a professional data recovery service?

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  4. Josh Conley

    Josh Conley Active Member

    putting in a new drive, installing an os onto it, then slaving the old drive to the new one isnt too difficult. time consuming though.
    pay attention to the jumpers on the back, each maker has their own way to establish master/slave it seems, if there isnt a sticker on the back showing the different configs, look it up on the mfg page.

    good luck man.
    fingers crossed that thing boots back up once you shut it off.
  5. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    Josh is right on !
    I might add that, if the drive(s) is an SATA, you don't have to bother with Master/slave
  6. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    My unposted point exactly. I haven't had issues with slave and master drive configuration since I stopped buying cheap IDE drives.
    And that was six years ago or better.
  7. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Thanks everyone!
    I have few (almost new) backups that I pulled out of another computer now sitting on my shelf. My Mastering computer is an AMD. The backup drives on my shelf came out of a Intel , I hope they fit.
    The Mastering computer was barely used. Goes to show, use two drives at least. This computer came with one drive partitioned, which I planned on adding a second drive. Live and learn.

    To all,
    Ya, it is a SATA, HD.

    To Bos, the squealing was the drive, not the mouse.
  8. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    Hard drives will work on both AMD and Intel based computers. But it is possible that the OS installed on AMD won't boot on Intel because of chipset drivers so the OS may need to be reinstalled. With motivation, you could boot in safe mode and remove all MB related drivers. That way when you boot on the intel it will detect everything from scratch. But a clean install is recommanded.

    Chris, I always have a cloned drive of my OS which I put nothing else on and project files are on other drives. So if my OS crashes in a session. It takes less than 5 minutes to swap the drive and continu to work. Also since it only for the os, a 160gig is enough. Oh yeah, my vsti files are on a third drive.

    You could say I'm a drive nut !! ;)
  9. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    I'm planning is to use those 2 backup drives now. I will do a clean install on one and use the second for the audio (as I should have long ago).
    My tracking and mixing DAW has 3 drives (OS, Audio, VSTi) but I never thought the Mastering CP would die on one so fast. No warning either.
    Going to fix it this weekend, thanks guys.
  10. MadMax

    MadMax Well-Known Member

    Unless data exists in 3 different physical locations... It doesn't exist.

    There are two types of computer users... Those who haven't had a catastrophic failure, and those who don't want to experience one again.
  11. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Thanks a good quote Max!
  12. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    This Mastering DAW has a few drives, all the important files are safe!
    I'm recovering my data now, I followed Bos's recommendation which was the only way to grab it all. (y) I simply installed the Mastering drive in my tracking DAW, copied that data over to my backup and its now double backed up! I'm going to see if I can use that drive now as the new OS for the mastering DAW.

    But the Mastering CP wont reboot from the recovery or a clean install. I've tried 4 drives and none of them will accept the CD. I've been on this for hours. I wonder if the CP is bad now. What a drag, hopfully I don't need a new Mastering CP now.
  13. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Damn, I can't get it to install a new OS onto any drive. I think something effected the BIOS
  14. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Ah, I might have the problem sorted. I have a D Link wireless USB connected. When I disconnected it from the USB hub, it took the DVD and is now appearing to prepare windows. ya!

    Now for the long process to reload and update.
  15. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    This is after a complete long installation that I found the motivation to clone my OS drive (once ready). I use Acronis True image, it can create a image file or a clone drive. Many other software do the same. It saved me a few times when I tested a software that made my OS crash. ;)
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  16. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    I've always used custom built PC's "built" for me. The failure on this is leaving me a bit green on reinstalling so more help is needed.

    I'm using 500Gig drives. For the C drive, do I need to create a special partition first?
  17. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    You only need one partition but it has to be an active partition as I recall
  18. JohnTodd

    JohnTodd Well-Known Member

    I would look at how many GB your OS and DAW stuff takes up in total. Then make a partition about 50 gig bigger for breathing room.

    This does not include your data from the DAW, you know, tracks and stuff.
  19. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    Boot able. This is what it would be.


    You may have done this...just trying to help.
  20. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Thanks Brien, that was the answer I needed. :)

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