hello, newbie questions here

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by kumbo, Apr 11, 2003.

  1. kumbo

    kumbo Guest

    I am doing a project paper on backmasking and submliminal messages in music, can any one offer insights where back masking originated? i heard that the beatles have started it off with one of their songs stating "die paul" or somthing to that effect, i just came to this site by accident before but never posted. I tred to decipher some tracks like the Led Zepplin "stairway to heaven" stanza. I dunno but it sounds like a phonetic coincedence to me but people are basically telling me that it was on their by purpose...i don't know if this is in the right forum but if you guys can help me out, thanx! :h:
  2. Doug Milton

    Doug Milton Active Member

    Sep 23, 2002
    To the best of my memory (others please jump in) there was a story that Paul McCartney died in an auto accident in 1964 and was replaced by the “Paul McCartney look alike winner”. There are supposedly clues on many Beatles albums starting with Sgt. Pepper. The album’s front cover has an array of people all of whom were dead at the time of release. This along with multiple references like a day in the life “someone spoke and I went into a dream, ahhh” about the other band members learning of Paul’s death and revolution #9 where John says “I buried Paul” backwards, to Abby Road where Paul is the only member of the band bare foot on the cover. It’s easy to find these “clues” on vinyl where spinning backwards is easy and fun for the whole family…
  3. Ethan Winer

    Ethan Winer Active Member

    Mar 19, 2001
    New Milford, CT USA
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    I can tell you for certain the the whole notion of subliminal messages is a crock. This is not to say that some music tracks don't have stuff embedded in them - I'm sure someone has done this. But the idea that anyone will hear those messages, or be influenced by them, is pure fiction. If you'd like to read more about this, here's a link to the excellent Urban Legends site:


    Click Music on the main page, then Hidden Messages. Also search for "sibliminal" for some other interesting and relevant info.

  4. kumbo

    kumbo Guest

    thanx ethan!
  5. kumbo

    kumbo Guest

    then how did this whole scharade start?????how was backmask terminology invented?????
  6. falkon2

    falkon2 Well-Known Member

    Mar 17, 2003
    Probably started as a cute gag like how films put random hidden cameos at hard-to-spot locations.

    Of course, some paranoid anti-government (we have more than our fair share of these in this and the last decade) freak must have seen the perfect opportunity to start some trouble.

    And, like how 13375p33k dominates the internet just because its perceived to be "cool" and "rebellious", the practice must have spread, silly as it was. Like break-dancing.
  7. kumbo

    kumbo Guest

    so any of you think that it just a phonetic coincidence????can engineers rearange the vocals to put messages when played backwards?????any of you guys know any recent songs that was blatantly backmasked??????
    thanx :)
  8. markiii

    markiii Guest

    The Beatles song that you heard of is "Revolution 9", where you hear John Lennon say "Number Nine", backwards "Turn me on, dead man".

    Check out http://www.undergroundnoize.com, an amusing site, where you can listen to many backmasking examples.
    For some of them, a rather strong imagination is required, though.

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