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help in logic pro

Discussion in 'Logic' started by godtruth, Aug 1, 2009.

  1. godtruth

    godtruth Active Member

    how do one change the key in logic this is racking my mind that it should be easy however i need assistance i would like to change the key in a song
     
  2. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    For what purpose? For ID3 tags or for within the project itself?
     
  3. jammster

    jammster Active Member

    Its not clear what you are trying to accomplish. Are you modulating keys? Then you must modulate what ever else you are working with.
     
  4. godtruth

    godtruth Active Member

    meaning the song is in the key of c how do i change the song in the key of f sharp without having to play the song in f sharp in logic pro 8
     
  5. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Unless your music is in MIDI then you will have to re-record the music in the key you wish to hear it.

    Alternatively, Melodyne claims to be able to move notes around individually but I am not sure what the results would be for an entire tune on all tracks.
     
  6. jammster

    jammster Active Member

    So it would help if you would specify for what plugin or effect you are setting your key too.

    Personally I really try to stay away from the auto tune stuff, but there is a simple fix.

    You simply have to create a pitch correction plugin.
    If you are familiar with the automation settings in Logic Pro 8, you can also use it to control volume. pan, or any plugin that is in use on that particular track.

    Click the button that says "volume" on the track you wish to modulate, in the arrange page, then scroll till you find your "pitch correction" plug and select.

    Now you will see in the vast amount of paramaters one which says "Scale/Chord type". This will allow you to set to the desired key from one point in the song, then modulate to the next. Just simply click on the track like your using automation and you will see all of the different chords and you hold your mouse button and scroll up an down.

    Take it easy with that auto tune, its sounds pretty sick if you can hear it!
    If I find that I have to use pitch correction I try to make it subtle or only use it on note, or god forbid, the notes where I really need it. YMMV
     
  7. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Actually there is a feature of Logic that allows for this. select the track that you want to edit and on on the bottom of the screen click Sample Editor > Factory > Time and pitch machine. From there go to the bottom of the box and adjust the amount of cents to equal the number of half steps difference between the keys. 100 cents to a half step. Note, that this overwrites the source files.

    Good luck
     
  8. ouzo77

    ouzo77 Active Member

    double that. but if you want to pitch from a c to a f sharp the results won't be very satisfactory. if you do only one or two half steps it's ok.

    for midi tracks it's much easier. select your tracks and adjust the pitch where it says "transpose" in the upper left corner in the arrangement window.
     
  9. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    +1

    The rule of thumb is to transpose whichever direction causes the least amount of movement. Since you are transposing a flat 5th or exactly half an octave, it will be the same in both directions. I doubt a jump that large in either direction will sound good.
     
  10. godtruth

    godtruth Active Member

    thanks for the advice and i would move out on it thankyou
     
  11. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Man! You guys! Stop spoon feeding! GT you have to read your manual. Yes you do. I'm sure that's how GuitarFreak figured it out. There should be either a PDF file or built into the help system. Reading is your friend.
     
  12. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    no lol, actually I figured it out by playing around with settings haha. I thought spoon feeding would be letting him know exactly how many cents to transpose, which I didn't. I will try to be more conscious of it HS.
     
  13. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Sorry. I'm cranky right now. It's 8:00 am and I just got home from work. I just hate seeing people get their information fed to them. You don't learn if you don't try.
     
  14. godtruth

    godtruth Active Member

    that is true hueseph however some people dont understand text some people learn from other people because the can interpeted better than the text so that is not always the only road however i do agree the spoon feeding thank you
     
  15. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Bottom line. If you want it to sound it's best at a different pitch then you need to re-track the song.
     

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