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help me build a good set up

Discussion in 'Recording' started by iaddrummer, Sep 27, 2010.

  1. iaddrummer

    iaddrummer Active Member

    so i am looking at building a decent budget recording set up. here is what i was thinking 15" mac book pro 4g dual processor. running cubase, and a presonus firepod possibly two if i need it let me know on that. now mics i will be recording full bands and doing like demos and stuff like that. i have heard great things about superlux mics for the cash but i know anything about them or what ones to use so let me know what you would go with for a good budget friendly all around recording set up. I know its not inexpensive but i am trying to get around spending tons of money because i allready have tons spent on drums lol so any help would be appreciated

    thanks

    derrick
     
  2. Jeemy

    Jeemy Well-Known Member

    Tons spent on drums is a great start.

    Please let us know your budget. I'd suggest $5,000 would allow you to build a setup where you wouldn't regret any of the purchases.

    For example:

    Macbook or an older G5 will do you well: $1400
    Cubase: $400
    RME FF800 (only 4 simultaneous mic pres but worth having and adding pres to): $1200
    Audix D6, D4, D2x2 or 3: $1000 (avoid the packs because the condensors aren't worth having)

    Either:

    2 x KEL HM-1s: $400
    1 x Audiotechnica AT4050, or an AKG 414: $400

    Or perhaps 2 x 414s.

    Some of these prices are based on secondhand and all are guesses/
     
  3. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Jeemy's recommendations are good IMO. You might throw a pair of AT4051b's in the mix. They have the added benefit of accepting the 4049 capsules for omni patterns. Also, the AKG414 is roughly USD $600-900 used. Most that are cheaper are either broken or counterfeit. +1 on the Fireface 800. Preamps would be from True Precision, Millennia, Grace, DW Fearn, API 3124+ etc.
     
  4. iaddrummer

    iaddrummer Active Member

    well i was thinking roughly about 3g's would be my budget thats why i was thinking presonus firepod cause it comes with 8 channels the ability to daisychain if you do 2 and allso comes with cubase and was thinking about the superlux because they are inexpensive but pack quite the punch for the cash from what have read so far
     
  5. iaddrummer

    iaddrummer Active Member

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    wow i am a total noob lol i have no clue as to what either of you are saying not even sure if its english
     
  6. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    The Presonus interface will be adequate for a budget setup. It's not my favorite but I'm not a hater of Presonus either. The microphone recommendations were Audio Technica AT4051 (x2), or Audio Technica AT4050 (x2), or AKG C414B-XLS (x2) or similar, or Kel HM-1 (x2). A studio of any type be it budget or pro would be very hamstrung if they didn't ultimately have at least a pair of Shure SM58 and/or SM57. Now, don't forget your power and cables. 50' lengths of mic cable are best. They can be interconnected if you need longer lengths. Quality cables are pricey and you do not want to skimp on the cables. They aren't ***y or glamorous but they are uber necessary and important to clean signal. I recommend getting a power conditioner with a toroidal transformer in it. At the bare minimum you need some sort of halfway decent UPS to protect the electronics. Jeemy's computer recommendation was for a Macbook Pro but a purpose dedicated PC laptop will work too provided it has sufficient specifications. Cheap is the enemy in the computer realm too but it's too easy to go the other way and covet the most expensive machine out there-the machine that goes, bing-and you're going to strip (from a pc) all unnecessary programs and garbage anyway. Now don't forget the stands. You'll need mic stands that are durable but don't weigh a ton unless you are completely studio based. Onstage Stands seems to give good bang for the buck. And lastly, you'll need cases for things if you even think you're going to go mobile with them.
     
  7. iaddrummer

    iaddrummer Active Member

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    I take it those are for overheads and vocals jeez I checked prices and that would kill a third of my budget
     
  8. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    I'm not sure what you're referring to. Even a budget studio or a budget home studio costs money. It ain't just two turn tables and a microphone. All of the microphones that were recommended are very versatile and can be found used in reasonable quantities and are workhorses.

    You want to stay away from cheap chinese microphones. They are hard to work with for novice and they have zero resale value and questionable quality and lifespan. If you wanted to steer clear of condenser microphones at first, then go with Shure SM58 x 2 and SM57 x 6. You will be adding microphones to your locker for as long as you work in audio. You only want to purchase good ones.

    Some of my colleagues have a great motto. Buy once, cry once. Buy cheap and cry many times.
     
  9. iaddrummer

    iaddrummer Active Member

    by cheap Chinese im assuming your refuring to superlux?
     
  10. geoffbrecker

    geoffbrecker Guest

    Get a Macbook Pro and a Shure SM7. You will never sell either.
     
  11. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    You can't record (easily) full bands with one mic and a laptop so that isn't a very helpful post. Also the SM7 is not as versatile as the other recommended mics including the SM57.
     

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