ok guys, I'm having problems here. I listened to the posted A/B clips using the Crane Song dither CD. Another acquaintance of mine from another forum bought a copy after seeing the flap generated over here. I will admit that on both his and your clips, the only difference I heard was in the very very quietest sections of the song. No instruments jumping out in the mix at me, no added warmth, fullness, etc...to my ears. It was killing me, so I loaded the A/B clips up in the DAW, inverted the phase on one, and mixed them down. I ended up with what sounded like white noise with a lot of bass at a level around -60 db rms. That's it. Frequency analysis confirmed this. Can someone tell me what the big deal is, and I'm asking because I sincerely want to know, not to be a smartass. I figure you guys know much more about this than I, and there must be something I'm missing. I know of a few other people who have admitted semi-privately they couldn't hear much difference, but I reckon they're too ashamed to make a fool of themselves like I'm doing. I am a grasshopper and I await your enlightenment. Help a brother out, would ya?