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Help me set up my Drum recording chain etc..

Discussion in 'Drums' started by Lerxst, Dec 6, 2007.

  1. Lerxst

    Lerxst Guest

    Preramble: I have been primarily using drum samples in my recordings and am looking to make the next big step to recording a full acoustic set. I currently have a home studio located where else, the basement, and have quickly figured out that a dead room isn’t always ideal, especially when it comes to drums. To the dismay of my wife, I have found that the first story family room has a fabulous sound with 20’ ceilings. So, the idea is to set the kit up there and run a snake to the basement (man cave).

    What I need help/advise with is with some of the equipment, set up (i.e. using what mic’s and preamps where etc..), and some guidance before I go spend money on what I think I want.

    Here is outboard gear I currently have to work with: (I have a total of 16 individual channels on my converters)

    The Kit: (Mapex Pro-M)
    Floor Toms (2): 16x16 – 18x16
    Rack Toms(2): 10x9 – 13x10
    Snare: Pork Pie little squealer
    Kick: 24x18
    Cymbals: Sabian AAX – 12”, 16”, 20”, and a 12” china
    Hi Hats: Sabian AAX - 14”


    Mic’s:
    Beyer M300 (1) (no ideas)
    Shure SM57 (3) (top/bottom snare?)
    Shure SM58 (2) (Rack toms?)
    Sennheiser MD421 (1) (Floor tom?)
    AKG 414B XL 2 (1) (In front of kick?)
    Rode K2 (1) (room mic?)
    Superlux CM-H8A (1) (no ideas)
    Audix D6 (1) (inside kick)

    Preamps:
    Onboard pres in my MOTU 896’s that I want to bypass, but there are sixteen if I wanted to use them – but I don’t.
    UA LA-610 (pre/comp)(1) (no ideas)
    Great River MP2NV (1) (overheads?)

    Comp’s:
    UA 1176LN (1) (room mic?)

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    Here is what I think I want to buy:

    Mic’s:
    Sennheiser MD421 (1) (other floor tom?)
    Shure SM81LC (2) (overheads)

    Preamps:
    API 500VPR 10 slot (1)
    API 512c (10) (everything but overheads?)

    Other:
    12x4 100’ snake (1) I have an old rapco snake, but I’m not sure of its sonic quality, so recommendations here are also welcome.

    Also, should I run the pre's closest to the mic's and kit or in the cave at the other end of the snake by the converters - or does it matter?

    Thanks,
    ~Steve
     
  2. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    This sounds really great. API's on the kit! INSTANT 'that sound'.....

    Everything you list is geared to making an incredible drum noise. If you wanted a 'woolier' kick drum sound the UA would work there. I would opt for it at the get-go and the 1176 on the snare. You have a great grasp on everything else.
     
  3. Lerxst

    Lerxst Guest

    Thanks for the reply Dave! A good affirmation of where I'm attempting to go with the Drums. I'll try out your suggestions.

    Do you have any comment about where I should run the pre's? I mean as far as location with regard to the snake that I will have to run. Should I have them close to the kit and mics, or at the other end of the snake in the control area downstairs? Does it matter technically/sonically?

    Thanks,
    ~Steve
     

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