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Help please, setup of Pro Tools 9 with Focusrite Sapphire 56 and Mackie Blackbird

Discussion in 'Pro Tools' started by Shanesaw, May 5, 2011.

  1. Shanesaw

    Shanesaw Active Member

    Hi,

    I have just setup a new HP computer based on AVIDs "requirements" in conjunction with Pro Tools 9, Focusrite Sapphire 56, and a Mackie Blackbird. All computer settings have been set as Avid recomended on their Windows 7 Optimizations setup.

    This is the first time using Pro Tools but im on day 2 with everything up and running and recording except...

    My Pro Tools 9 is seeing ADAT exactly 2 off of whats actually the ADAT signal. For instance, ADAT 1 from Sapphire which is accepting the first mic from input 1 of Mackie Blackbird is actually ADAT 3 on Pro Tools. Than ADAT 2 out of Sapphire is actually seen as ADAT 4 in Pro Tools and so on for the next 6 signal connections. I setup the inputs on the front of the Focusrite to show the ADAT 1-8 inputs from the Mackie and that is correct which is weird.

    Hookup/Setup is Focusrite as interface to Pro Tools with ADAT 1-8 feeding from Mackie Blackbird ADAT 1-8 out into ADAT 1-8 into of Focusrite, than its ADAT 1-8 from Focusrite to Mackie to do clocking in Focusrite and Mackie as slave.


    ANY SUGGESTIONS?

    I will pick up a couple new fiber optic cables tomorow is all i can think of. ???
     
  2. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    Check that the on-board soundcard is disabled on the computer motherboard.
     
  3. Shanesaw

    Shanesaw Active Member

    Thx. I will double check that.
     
  4. Shanesaw

    Shanesaw Active Member

    Sound card is disabled, still no luck figuring it out. I can get by without it matching but im just curious and hoping the focusrite unit is not malfunctionung as thats what seems to be feeding the DAW incorectly. My IO is setup in Pro Tools proper, double checked that too....
     
  5. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    No real ideas here, but what sample is everything being set to run? What is the clock set to in the PT Hardware panel?
     
  6. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    Is that the way they say to hook it up? What happens if you pull the connection from the Focusrite back to the Mackie?
     
  7. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    If you plug a mic into the Saffire preamp where does it show up in this scenario.
     
  8. Shanesaw

    Shanesaw Active Member

    Everything is at 44.1 sample... The Sapphire sends audio accordingly to analog inputs 1-8 to DAW properly. The Mackie sends ADAT 1-8 accordingly as well because i set the settings in Saphhire mix control to show ADAT 1-8 on the meters on the hardware panel itself and it is accurate.... Just not in Pro Tools as the Focusrite may be transalating the Mackies ADAT connections incorrectly. I have not tried using the Mackie as the interface yet and the Focusrite as slave to it. Ill try that next, ill email tech supports to see what they have to say as well. I did read through manuals already and i setup as specified....
     
  9. Shanesaw

    Shanesaw Active Member

    Everything is at 44.1 sample... The Sapphire sends audio accordingly to analog inputs 1-8 to DAW properly. The Mackie sends ADAT 1-8 accordingly as well because i set the settings in Saphhire mix control to show ADAT 1-8 on the meters on the hardware panel itself and it is accurate.... Just not in Pro Tools as the Focusrite may be transalating the Mackies ADAT connections incorrectly. I have not tried using the Mackie as the interface yet and the Focusrite as slave to it. Ill try that next, ill email tech supports to see what they have to say as well. I did read through manuals already and i setup as specified....
     
  10. Shanesaw

    Shanesaw Active Member

    Sorry to post same twice previously, crappy phone... I have reversed interfaces to the Macke
     
  11. Shanesaw

    Shanesaw Active Member

    Damn phone again wigged out and posted before complete. Everything is fine with Mackie Blackibird as interface to Pro Tools and using the Sapphire standalone ADAT into it... Possibly the Dynex Firewire PCI card i installed in the HP computer was issues with the Sapphire. IDK. Thats all BB had for firewire cards and noticed its not "approved/tested" by AVID.
     
  12. Shanesaw

    Shanesaw Active Member

    Well i have been having other issues other than whats been found out. So far the ADAT channel misalignment to Pro Tools has been fixed by using the Mackie Blackbird as the interface. But i have since had issues keeping the Focusrite hooked up Firewire to computer within Pro tools 9. It seems to confuse Pro Tools and cause it to shut down because of "hardware issue". The Focusrite when disconnected from firewire of computer keeps all running smoothly. However, i need it connected to change any Focusrite Liquid channel preamp settings.... Well, i decided to change the firewire connection of the Focusrite to the next available firewire port. So far now, everything is running good with both hardware connected with firewire and ADAT without Pro tools 9 shutting down. Its just frusterating when trying to learn new software and hardware and such a small thing can really botch everything up and lose time i should be able to play with preamps, mic placement, etc etc.... Learning experience which i already knew, dont short yourself any link in the chain as it will only cause hair loss and violence. Stupid lame Dynex firewire PCI i bought at Best Buy because i was too anxious to wait and order a tested and proven piece from a PC online store. Didnt see a location for this on AVIDs website until recent. Well actually it was a a bad port on the 3 port card. Anyways, thought i would share my experience as it may help someone down the road.
     

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