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Help with recording. Just started. Just got new gear for it.

Discussion in 'Recording' started by kylendm, Apr 13, 2009.

  1. kylendm

    kylendm Active Member

    Hey all i just got some new gear and I'm still kinda new to recording.

    Gear:
    Lexicon - Lambda
    AKG - Perception 220
    Midi Cable
    Stand

    Amp:
    Randall - RM100H
    Cab:
    Marshall - 1960 Lead
    Guitar:
    BC Rich NJ series w/ Emg 81 and 85

    I have the mic almost on the speaker at the -20db setting.

    Other than a noise gate what else will i need to make my sound more cutting and clear like real songs you'd hear today.

    Clip:
    http://www.box.net/shared/vy4953i1qj

    Thx p.s. don't mind the simplistic playing. Sound is the main thing right now.
     
  2. apstrong

    apstrong Active Member

    A noise gate isn't going to help you much, I can hear that annoying buzz through the entire clip. Sounds like a ground loop, and you should solve that problem before worrying about the tone of the guitar. Then you can try experimenting with different mic placements, different parts of the cone, further away, close up, etc.. And different mics. Get yourself an SM57, even if you don't end up using it on the guitar cab, you'll eventually use it on something somewhere.
     
  3. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    I am moving this to a forum where there will likely be more help for you.
     
  4. kylendm

    kylendm Active Member

    Whats a Loop Ground?
     
  5. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Second that motion on the SM57. Put the 57 in front of the amp dead center of the cone...then move it to the right 2-3 inches. Then throw your existing condenser a few feet away to capture some room tone in there as well. Blend the tones using some audio software, cut the bass etc.
     
  6. jg49

    jg49 Well-Known Member

    Loop ground is a roller coaster that has come off its tracks. But "ground loop" see below....

    Typically a ground loop is noticed by a tone that should not be present caused when two different pieces of equipment are on different polarities yet connected together with some type of cabling. The current is running one way through one and the other way thru the other. This happens most often when the circuit wiring of the building has some outlets that were wired in reverse. If you can plug the equipment into the same outlet making certain that the plugs are not forced in incorrectly it should resolve itself. If it continues it may not be the problem.
     
  7. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    I think you also can get the same tone (low frequency buzzing) from having a cable which is connected to nothing (if a guitarist removes their cable or if the connector is broken and a wire is loose).
    I believe it's called an "open circuit" but I may be talking buzz.
     
  8. kylendm

    kylendm Active Member

    Well it looks like everything is plugged in correctly and nicely heres what i got going:

    Guitar->Amp->Wall Outlet
    Amp -> 16ohm -> Cab 16ohm
    Midi Channel Switch -> Amp

    That's it.

    I'm getting a Furman power conditioner hoping that may solve some problems.
     
  9. apstrong

    apstrong Active Member

    Do you still get the hum even when the recording gear is turned off and you're just using the guitar and the amp/cab? If so, have you tried it with different wall outlets around your home? While you're at it, buy a 3$ outlet tester before your cough up for the expensive power conditioner and make sure the outlet you're using is properly wired and grounded.
     
  10. kylendm

    kylendm Active Member

    Yeah the hum is on the amp when it's turned off. Also when i hold the guitar a certain way the hum goes away like when i tilt it the hum disapears. I'll try another guitar and see if that works. I'm at school right now so i can't say anything will work, but i think the hum has always been there ever since i got the amp. It's also been there with every amp i've had so maybe it is an outlet problem.
     
  11. BuildaRecordingStudio

    BuildaRecordingStudio Active Member

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    for info on studio's

    Regards Trev
     
  12. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    Ban this guy.
     
  13. jg49

    jg49 Well-Known Member

    PLease ban that guy.
     
  14. kylendm

    kylendm Active Member

    Recording in my environment.

    Recording. Alright well here goes. I love recording, my amp is awesome, my mic is good, interface is cool, but my room is crap. Two of my walls are full concrete and the other two are 1inch thick pieces of wood with thick studs and another 1 inch piece of wood on the other side.

    I feel the room may be making my sound more sterile and killing the life out of it. I have my mic 5-6 inches away from the speaker and a little bit away from the cone. My sound is not peaking or anything. Is there something else i could do to make it sound a bit better.

    This is just a little clip of what i got..nothing special just to show what i have so far as sound goes. environment

    http://www.box.net/shared/1jv9sdp4fd

    Any ideas. If pictures are needed to show what i got i can provide them.

    I added some reverb to it too. So thats not my room.
     

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