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High-end version of this drum sound?

Discussion in 'Drums' started by Pilutiful, May 23, 2012.

  1. Pilutiful

    Pilutiful Active Member

    Hi

    I am planning on recording an album, and I'm doing some research - hope someone can help me.

    ;)

    As you can hear, this is not high-end sound, but the feel of this sound suits perfectly on the songs. Can anyone suggest a high-end version of this drum "power" sound? ANY suggestions are welcome!

    Thanks

    smoke

    regards
    Pilu from Greenland
     
  2. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    personally, I don't download. Try soundcloud or dropbox
     
  3. Pilutiful

    Pilutiful Active Member

    I upload it to soundcloud: Sonar power set by Pilutiful on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
     
  4. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    You should look at the SPL Transient Designer hardware or plug-in if you want to make that from a regular kit or most drum kits. Getting drums to sound like this is not a problem at all.

    http://spl.info/en/software/transient-designer/video.html

    BFD2 has great drums and also, most DAW's have VSTi drum kits with kits like this too.
    There is compression and reverb on your example
     
  5. Pilutiful

    Pilutiful Active Member

    Thanks a lot! That might be what I'm looking. I have various drum kits (ezdrummer for one), I'm going to experiment a bit thumb thanks again!
     
  6. Pilutiful

    Pilutiful Active Member

    This is what I got.

    Ezdrummer /w transient designer by Pilutiful on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

    I added sustain and distortion to the snare.

    What do you think?
     
  7. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    I liked your original version better. All you need to do is add some extremely short reverb to add ambience to the bass drum. You want the sound of the bass drum rocking the walls around you. And then you'll have it. Your improvement wasn't an improvement. It was over ambient sludge. Your first version was tighter. And I like tighter.

    I have to inhale to zip up my blue jeans.
    Mx. Remy Ann David
     
  8. Pilutiful

    Pilutiful Active Member

    Yeah, I should probably stick to the original idea and find a similar but high end drum synth :smile: I would like it to be electro anyways to have a little variation on the album. Do you have any suggestion on good high end all round drum synth plugins? preferreable vst.
     
  9. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    I really don't think you want a synthetic drum sound? Real samples, manipulated expertly will provide all of the ambient synthesis you need. So it's just a matter of taking that bass drum sample and processing it. That will provide you with a more realistic and organic product over anything purely synthetic. Synthetic would be a Roland 808 or something like that. And that sounds bogus by today's standards. Maybe not so much so for rap/hip-hop, where that product relies upon synthetic drum globules. But if that's what you're going for, then that's what you want. And there are plenty of Roland 808 samples in which to cop. What you're doing sounds more like rock 'n roll to me? Maybe that's not the desired results? Only you can be the judge.

    I like real sounding stuff
    Mx. Remy Ann David
     
  10. Pilutiful

    Pilutiful Active Member

    I'm not really concerned about the bass drum that much (which is why I processed the snare and not the bass drum of course). I think you are missing the point a little bit, or I didn't explain myself precise enough :smile: the "snare" on the first sample really cuts through, I don't hear that on real drums which is why I added distortion on the "snare" (on the second sample).

    Yes, it is rock that we play. But, as written, a little variation on the album won't hurt. Mos of the tracks will have real drums, while few sounds better with drum synth. I guess you can call them electronic rock.
     
  11. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    I still believe this comes down to more recording and processing technique then which à la carte sample you choose. Distortion is not necessarily the way to enact what you seek. It's the understanding of proper processing techniques that separates the pros from the noise. A Pro understands how to attain the sound in which we want from an already quality recorded source. You don't just put a coin in the slot and turn the crank to get the gumball. You have to devise a mechanism in which to deliver the gumball. And you do that from perfectly shaped gumballs to begin with. So I'm only indicating that quality samples, coupled with engineering knowledge and technique will allow you to artistically deliver your gumball. Of course, we don't always get a choice of which colored gumball we want. At least in the land of professional audio, you have a plethora of different snare drum gumballs from which to choose without that in determined color being delivered. You get the choice of which color and size of the gumball you need to start with. And then you go from there.

    If a lot of eardrums are going to be recorded live from real drums sets, you'll quickly discover not all drums are created equally. We've all used the myriad of duct tape and wallets taped onto drum heads in order to get certain sounds from whatever drum set the musician may have brought with them. Other studios may have the luxury of their own drum sets and different drums that provide different tonalities necessary to create a certain sound. But we all don't get that luxury which is why we'll utilize duct tape, handkerchiefs and wallets. And then you also have the choice of microphones on top, microphones underneath, equalization, time delays, all that stuff in which to create a sound. That's what audio engineering is all about. It's not a drive-through process. If the construction process which requires experience, knowledge and skill. So if you believe that synthetic drums provide the sound you want? Then, synthetic drums it is. And even that can be obtained from utilizing drum triggers in which to trigger a synthetic sample. We've all done that. We all do that. It's whatever it takes to get the take.

    I'm always on the take
    Mx. Remy Ann David
     
  12. Pilutiful

    Pilutiful Active Member

    Awesome! I found out how to do it. I found this on youtube: Gated reverb snare - YouTube

    So it seems what I'm looking for is giving the snare some "gated reverb"..I googled and found this tutorial: Making a gated reverb.

    Also I added the transient designer on the snare as audiokid suggested, and boosted the bass drum as RemyRAD suggested.

    This is what I got so far, using real drum sound (ezdrummer): Ezdrummer gated reverb by Pilutiful on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

    Cool!!! I'm thrilled thumb
     
  13. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    Cool, you're almost there. Now you can go truly crazy with everything. You are quickly becoming a real audio engineer.

    I use lots of Greenlee tools not made in Greenland
    Mx. Remy Ann David
     

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