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Holy Smokes Batman , what a Drum Track!

Discussion in 'Drums' started by Mad John, Feb 6, 2002.

  1. Mad John

    Mad John Active Member

    Hi everyone ,

    I was recoring a drum track last night at my studio and the craziest thing happened!

    First let me explain that I play all the instruments and do all the produceing/recording/engineering myself , so as you can imagine at times getting a good track can take quite alot of time (sometimes up to 8 hours with no acomplished result!)

    Sometimes , (although with the proper patchbays/snakes and genral hookups I am quite well organized) I will get confused with what I had used a mic with the night before and not realize I should of 1st checked the back of all connections concerned.

    I am recoring a very Psycedelic/garage-punk type of rythem section in Mono on a 4 piece kit useing all SM-57s on Snare/Tom/Floor Tom Bass drum sometimes uses RE-20 , but the overhead useuwaly picks up what I want , so no mic on Bass drum for this recoring. The overhead is a Rode NTK Tube (which I like very much!)

    OK, my drums are to the side of my guitar rig. (Fender Twin/Marshal 4/12 cab/Peavey Classic 50 head) The bass drum is 3 feet from side front of amps. A Sm-57 is tilted aprox 45 degrees faceing more towards the floor and tilted in the drums direction, but angled down!

    I recorded going into a Mackie 1604 to a Tascam TSR-8 half inch 8 track. The mics on the Toms are quite close and had at first a very boomy response. After a few tweaks everything sounded decent. I was just after a basic drum track in this situation. My tasks on a daily basis are quite grueling indeen and I was not fussy in this case.

    Anyway when I played the Mono Drum track back I was stuplified!

    Let me also explain that I had conducted many tests 1st! I of course recorded and listened to just the 3 closed mics , then just the Overhead.

    When put together I had the beefest fattest , most powerful drum sound I had ever gotten!!!

    I use Distressors and good tube gear most of the time , so this was quite a surprize to me and I thought, "Well, that Rode really is a chracter builder!"

    The next day as I was routing a different session I noticed to my utter astonishment that what I thought had been the Rode had really been the guitar mic discribed!

    Firstly , you all know that Science does not always find its logical conclusion in a situation such as this and I will admit that as a producer myself , I felt stupied for haveing that mistake pass me by before recording. (the logical mind)

    I am shareing this with you all , because I feel that there are no secrets or tricks that should not be revealed.

    I remeber feeling a little ashamed with myself for makeing the error and realizing that it is OK not to be perfect (yes, even in the studio!) and WOW Batman, we will have the theme ready for the show!

    I love you guys , always keep the faith (the rest you can throw out!)

    Mad John
    Zythum Studios

    "Thw present day Composer refuses to die!" - Edgar Varese - 1921
     
  2. drundall

    drundall Guest

    This is the same reason that I try to record the talkback mic. I've had a randomly placed TB (probably a 57 or 58) blow away a pair of expensive room mics before.
     
  3. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    "I am shareing this with you all , because I feel that there are no secrets or tricks that should not be revealed."

    Yes! The old, not intended mic turning out fantastic - syndrome!

    Guide vocal mic's and 'that one standing in the corner" are always worth a quick listen before repositioning!

    :w:
     

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