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Discussion in 'Recording' started by tofumusic, Jan 10, 2006.

  1. tofumusic

    tofumusic Guest

    Hey I heard something pretty cool in a song.. The whole beat slowed down very gradually until all of the sounds were just murmuring and faded out. . Is there an effect that does this? I think I remember seeing a Waves effect like this but Im' not sure. . Would this be a time/pitch thing in Pro Tools? I've tried it out a few times but can't quite get it exactly. . Thanks ..
     
  2. timtu

    timtu Guest

    If I was to do that I would record the track I wanted a ordinary cassette tape. (Risking terrible quality of course.)

    Then wire a variable capacitor to the tape motor instead of the fixed capacitor already present. (This adjusts the speed of the motor.)

    I would playback the tape into my desk onto my computer and slow down the tape motor with the variable capacitor.

    (Then run noisgates and EQ's to fix the 'tape damage.)

    This would be excellent as a novelty but realisticly it would ruin the quality of the slowed down sound and I don't know if people could be bothered with such a hands on approach when I'm sure there is a plugin or something that could do this.

    Either way...

    tim...
     
  3. iznogood

    iznogood Guest

    or download the pitch'n'time demo here:

    http://www.serato.com/products/pnt/download/

    it work for 30 days

    put it in varispeed mode.......
     
  4. OR MAYBE THE BAND COULD DO JUST A TEENY BIT OF THINKING AHEAD AND LEARN TO DO A RETARD AND A DIMINUENDO AND STOP TRYING TO DO EVERY ^#$%ing THING IN THE WORLD WITH A CHRISTLESS PLUGIN!

    Jesus, people, seriously.

    ~S
     
  5. Boltino

    Boltino Guest

    First, Calm Down

    Second, its Ritardando or "Ritard" for short.

    Wes
     
  6. Reggie

    Reggie Well-Known Member

    I don't think you can really do what this guy is talking about by conducting the music differently. :roll:

    I was requested to do something like this only backwards for a metal album I did. It started with the end of a piece of music, and was played backwards starting extremely slowly (just digital murmurs at first) and increasingly sped up until it reached rediculous speed, and then cut to the next song. What I did was play the song through Cubase SX2, using the jog dial to mess with the speed; and play out of one set of soundcard outputs (RME) into a set of different soundcard inputs (SBAudigy), and record those inputs through a different recording program (Cakewalk). That way I could mess with things as much as I want in Cubase and record the results in Cakewalk. Odd I know, but it worked quite well. Don't know if you can find a way to do this with Protools, but maybe it will give you some ideas.
     
  7. JoeH

    JoeH Well-Known Member

    There's an example of something like this at the end of a work by Emerson Lake & Palmer on their debut LP from 1969/1970. (yes, that's an LP, not a CD! It's from the early days of "Prog Rock". ;-)

    The work was based on a piece by Janacek, they called it "Knife Edge". At the end (the final 20 seconds or so), the piece slows down in tempo and pitch, and literally crawls to a halt finally. It was done with varispeed on an analog tape deck.

    If you've got a half track with that capability, then dub it over there and have a go at it. Otherwise, you'll have to try it out in software, hopefully something with a variable, draw-able curve. Elastic Audio comes to mind - Samplitude & Sequoia will do this with a simple pencil-draw tool. I'm sure there are others out there as well. From what you're describing, you can do try it with tempo alone, or pitch alone, or both.
     

  8. I think I made one of those Freudian things.
     
  9. tofumusic

    tofumusic Guest

    Thanks for the replies. . I think Pitch 'n Time will do the trick if I expirement with it a little.. If you want a sample of what I heard I can email it. . Thanks again for the help. .
     
  10. vari pitch in audio suite for pro tools
     
  11. tofumusic

    tofumusic Guest

    Thanks Reggie, thanks Eights, thanks Tim I'm gonna experiment with all that stuff (the hands on approach later when I get my hands ona tape desk lol). I'm gonna try that as well with Cubase.. If I find out what the producer used I'll post that in this thread as well.. It's subtle but really cool
     

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