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How can I get the vocals to sit right?

Discussion in 'Vocals' started by IAmKonstantin, Sep 19, 2010.

  1. Here's my latest song:

    YouTube - D-Pryde - Just Like Me (Remix)

    And this is what i did....
    I recorded it in Logic 9. Used vocalign to align the lead and dub track. Then I edited them in Adobe Audition 3. I used the "generic mud removal" preset in EQ and and "subtle clarity" with 35% reverb in Mastering. Then I adjusted the volume accordingly so it's doesn't overpower the beat but also doesn't sound too quiet.

    What can I do to make it better?
    Appreciate all the help!
     
  2. MadMax

    MadMax Well-Known Member

    I don't normally comment in here, but I'll stick my neck out a bit...

    The whole mix sits right in the middle with nothing able to sit out on it's own. Spread that sound field out, and keep them vox hot.

    (Hint) If you can't get the vox on top, maybe everything else should come down around it.
     
  3. I'd like to have my vocals sound like this: YouTube - J.Reyez - Little Miss Innocent (feat. Chris Jackson & Steph Ly)

    How can I achieve that?
     
  4. MadMax

    MadMax Well-Known Member

    As I said, spread some of that instrumentation out from the vocal space. Put some of the lower vocal range back in the EQ of the lead vox to fill it out a bit, and maybe loosen the compression a bit on the main vox and tighten up the compression on the others. (Sometimes you do just the opposite and it works) Then drop the rest of the levels down a good 3db to let the vox rise up w/o pushin' the faders up.

    Not to purposely shill my own shop, but if you try the above and you still can't get it, it might be because of your room giving you false sonics. It might be worth sending your trax out for mixing, or at least letting someone put ears on the raw tracks. I'd be willing to at least listen to your raw trax if you've got an ftp site that I could snag em' from. (at least the Vox stem .WAV's as you want em' mixed.)

    It's gettin' pretty busy here at the shop, so if your interested... we need to pick a time pretty quick.... so PM me, or check with some of your local pro shops to see what they'd charge to at least evaluate the trax...
     
  5. DJFlexx

    DJFlexx Active Member

    An old trick I learned to make sure your mix and vocals are sitting right is to lower your speakers slowly and whatever you don't hear anymore first is at the "bottom" of the audio spectrum/field (i.e. audio "ladder") then by the time you get your speakers really really low you will know what sounds sit "on top" of your mix. If your vocals are on top but are still competing with something else then you should back off the problem from your vocals. This trick works great to check out where everything "sits" within your mixes!

    CHEERS!

    ERJ
     
  6. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Yup, I do this all the time.
     
  7. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Hey, Edmonton, my old stomping ground for 10 years. Played most spots around town from the Londondary , Convention Centre , The Cap, Kingsway, Highwayman and so on. Nice to see you here.

    Nice composition, you haven't shared your gear profile here other than Logic and a few. I got to say, until you invest in serious gear, you will always be in the wash and battling for balls over definition. There is nothing you can do to truly get it out on its own unless you take a big jump in gear. But that's only my opinion. As Max say's, you can improve what you have happening .
    I hear it right away... welcome to the flat washed sound of mid level DAW and plug-ins, 20 shades of grey. Be careful of the reverb plugins, that's the first place I would be dumping.
    You've done a pretty good job, from my laptop, I liked your track a lot. Kudo's for the nice work.
     
  8. I wish I could invest into some good equipment but even if I could i wouldn't know what to buy first. I pretty much do all the work on my mac book using my AT2020 condenser usb mic.
     
  9. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Good job for what you have. USB mic isn't the best starting point for certain but it did get you recording and inspired.

    Read read and read here. Good luck!
     

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