How do I eliminate certain parts of songs?

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by spooner, Nov 2, 2006.

  1. spooner

    spooner Guest

    How do I eliminate certain parts of songs to just get the vocals or just get the instruments etc. Is there a program I can buy to do this as I am remixing a song and would like to eliminate the instruments to have just the vocals. Thank you in advance. x
     
  2. pr0gr4m

    pr0gr4m Well-Known Member

    You can't. There is no program that does this. There are lots of programs that claim to do things like this...mostly eliminate the vocals and just leave the music...but they don't work.

    If you understand sound and audio frequencies, you'll understand why doing something like this is practically impossible.

    So, for you do do what you want to do, there are a few possible options.

    1. Find an acapella version of the song. This is a version with only the vocals and no music. Some singles are released with acapella versions.

    2. Contact the artist/producer/label and ask for a copy of just the vocals so that you can remix the song.

    3. Use an equalizer as a filter and try to filter out as much of the music as you can without totally destroying the vocals. Then use those vocals in your mix adding in sounds that would blend in with the sounds you were not able to completely remove.
     
  3. spooner

    spooner Guest

    great thanks for that. I will see what I can do.
     
  4. JoeH

    JoeH Well-Known Member

    This is not a mastering question......

    I'm not sure WHERE it belongs, but it certainly not here. Home studio, perhaps?
     
  5. reginald

    reginald Guest

    I will sue adobe audition for misleading me that it is able to do that. Ive tried it more than 10 times and gave up!
     
  6. JoeH

    JoeH Well-Known Member

    well, find the ads where it says it can do that and knock yourself out. (I'd like to see where they specifically say that, as well.)
     
  7. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    The only way to achieve what you want is to go back to the mix and mute what you don't want. Even Adobe Audition can do it.
     
  8. spooner

    spooner Guest

    how do i do that? If I import a track to say (for example) cubase, it comes in one stereo track. From there, How can you get to the mix where the instruments are split to different channels?

    Are there any programs that claim to do this sort of thing and what are they? Even if they dont fully eliminate the vocals. Thanks x
     
  9. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    You have to go back to the mix session. trying to take stuff out in a mixed stereo track is not the way to go.
     
  10. JoeH

    JoeH Well-Known Member

    Spooner, with all due respect, it sounds like you do not understand the basics involved in recording and mixing individual audio tracks.

    If you are importing an already-mixed track (one that contains all of the instruments already mixed in the stereo panorama), then you are NOT going to be able to separate the individual instruments.

    If you are working with a collection of individual tracks, for example; piano on two tracks (L&R), bass, guitar, drums, vocals, etc. all on their own discrete tracks, then yes, you can change levels, make EQ changes, add reverb, etc., all to your heart's content, changing the mix infinitely. Ditto if you are working with MIDI tracks, they too can be adjusted and changed as needed in terms of timing, velocity, amplitude, panning, etc.

    It's really that simple, and Adobe Audition (formerly Cool Edit) does, in one way or another, most of what all of the other PC and MAC DAW applications do, to one extent or another.
     
  11. spooner

    spooner Guest

    well to be honest mate all i want to know is if there is a way or program that claims to seperate the instruments from the vocals and visa versa from a imported mp3 to stereo track. I don't know or care how it is possible, I just wanted to find a program that 'claimed' to do it. I realise it would be virtually impossible to do so but I am looking for a program that says that it can.
     
  12. JoeH

    JoeH Well-Known Member

    I don't know or care how it is possible,

    Ok, THAT'S IT. ENOUGH. (Mods; please lock this thread or remove it altogether.)

    This thread has NOTHING to do with mastering, and as much as we've all tried to help you, this is nothing but an amateurish attempt at finding an "easy-button" for something that doesn't exist.

    Please either take the time to learn the tools of the trade, or just go elsewhere. You had a lot of folks making an effort to help you, and it's clear we've wasted our time.
     
  13. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    In the back of some magazines you'll see a product called "Vocal Eliminator". Knock yourself out.

    Now can we let this thread die?
     
  14. TrilliumSound

    TrilliumSound Active Member

    This will do and it is the best of its own and really does what you are looking for: http://www.make-your-own-karaoke.com/karaokedownload0.htm?gclid=COC39eyxt4gCFTA8FQodvm6Xig . Now we can move on.
     
  15. yz

    yz Guest

    Sorry to dwell on this thread, but I have had some fairly decent results playing around with phase cancellation of stereo mixes to remove vocals. I don't remember exactly how I did it, but with some experimenting, reversing phase on some channels, etc. I was able to remove quite a bit of the vocals from some mixes. Often the ghost vocal (reverbs, etc.) remained. I guess I was eliminating the center channel, and it worked on some mixes better than others.
     

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