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How do i turn my comp speakers into monitors?

Discussion in 'Monitoring / Headphones' started by xX5thQuarterXx, Jan 13, 2007.

  1. xX5thQuarterXx

    xX5thQuarterXx Active Member

    Hey guys. So at the moment im getting ready to buy some powered monitors. but im not sure what ones.

    So for the time being, is it possible to turn my computer speakers into monitors through Cubecase LE?

    I Have a firepod and i hate hate hate monitoring through headphones during playback. My computer speakers are pretty decent so they should be fine for a couple weeks.

    These are my computer speakers.
    http://www.directron.com/champagnese.html

    i have an alesis multimix if that helps at all
     
  2. dementedchord

    dementedchord Well-Known Member

    hemmm... i dont know if your old enough to hear the truth.... how were you with the whole easter bunny thing????


    if you've got them hooked up and your monitoring through them then....

    They ARE Monitors....

    there's nothing per se' that distinguishes them in the larger sense??? no.... are they all GOOD monitors???? not even close.... are there specific things that the better ones have in common??? you bet...

    first they should be reasonably flat... and that doesnt mean lack luster... nor should they be hyped... to go to the other extreme...

    the bass response is (to a large degree) proportional to the size of the woofer... an 8" will go deeper than a 5"... god i hate generalities... does that deepness = better??? not necessarily....
    does it need to be ported??? it can be... and there are plenty of examples of good ported designs... but i have a preference for acoustic suspension (unported) and find them to be tighter on the bottom....

    will any old amp work??? yep to a large degree it will... provided you dont plug your soundcard into say a phono input.... a cd or tape input will work.... also dont use the "tone controlls" especially the Loudness button... infact if you look on the back and you see an input that says "amp in" there's your best bet... it may have a little loop of wire coming out and then directly back in...

    other tidbits.... it's not unusual for the amp to be rated at twice the power handling capability of the speaker (in RMS).... believe it or not it's easier to blow a speaker by underpowering it... basicly the amp (underpowered) has to work harder... distorts in the process.... and thats what blows the speaker... the big monitor guy's use the same components as the high-fi guys... yep to a large degree they do... also the low end is the same deal except that the hi-fi guy's tend to hype there's alittle more...
     
  3. Wyatt

    Wyatt Guest

    RE

    I believe the problem this guy is having is that he can't listen to things through his computer speakers in Cubase. This is probably because his computer speakers are hooked up to his regular soundcard and Cubase just pays attention to the firepod. The only way around this (that I know of) is just to hook your computer speakers up to the Firepod's headphone output. I had the same problem with my Edirol UA-1000, but I just solved the problem by getting some monitors to use with it ;).

    Have a good one,
    Wyatt
     
  4. xX5thQuarterXx

    xX5thQuarterXx Active Member

    Yeah thats what i needed to know. Wasn't sure if i could or not. Thanks guys.
     
  5. gdoubleyou

    gdoubleyou Well-Known Member

    If you want to get an accurate mix, I suggest investing in near field monitors.

    Hi fi speakers are designed to sound good in a variety of enviornments, and will add/subtract certain frequencies, add color.

    Monitors are designed to reproduce accurately what you have recorded.

    All speakers like a lens have a focal point, for hi fi speakers that focal point is usually five to fifteen feet from the front of the speaker.

    Near field monitors have a focal point that appears near the grille cloth of the monitor. So the stereo field forms in front of you.

    You would have to have a large room, that is tuned to suppress the added/subtracted frequencies produced by hi fi speakers to make an accurate mix with your speakers.

    :wink: 8)

    Believe me there is a HUGE difference.
     
  6. dementedchord

    dementedchord Well-Known Member

    granted that all speakers are NOT created equall... but this is BS of the highest order and promulgated by the manufacturers... ever worked on a speaker??? you'll quite often find the same drivers in a hi-fi and a "pro monitor" ised to buy tweeters in bulk because of a partner who insisted on tracking vocals in the controll room with headphones when i wasn't around... and then brought up the mains without muting the mic... also from a historical stand point some of the most popular mastering rooms often used "audiofool" speakers.... most notably for instance B+W....

    come on admit it ya drank the cool-aid didn't ya???
     
  7. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    dementedchord is absolutely right!

    Good case in point. My all-time favorite studio control room monitor speaker is the JBL 4310/4311/4312 (all the same speaker with minor changes through the years) of which, I have numerous pairs of. A few years ago, Harmon/JBL, discontinued the last series of the model, the 4312 as a "Professional Studio Monitor" and rereleased them as the 4312"C" or consumer series, for a few retailers. I called them to talk to them about some specifics about those speakers and the idiot at Harmon/JBL kept on telling me those were consumer speakers and not professional speakers like their new "LSR" series?!?! What a bunch of crap! They are still identical to the older "Professional" versions of the same speaker, in production since 1968! And their original consumer release of the 4310 was called the L100. The only difference between that Speaker and the professional series 4310 was, instead of a gray painted box with a black burlap grill, it had a beautiful walnut veneer box with a really cool geometric acoustically transparent, colorful foam grill. George Massenburg mixed many of his most notable hits on those L100 "consumer speakers". LOL! I guess he didn't know they were professional? NOT!

    Let your ears be your guide. It's much easier if you use CD based notable hits, recorded by notable engineers/producers, as your reference for speaker comparisons and not your own poorly recorded products. This does not include Rap nor any other similar genre since ridiculous and unrealistic bass is created with oscillators and other studio tricks that take the frequency response outside that of normal and average instruments and listening.

    Crappy little toy computer speakers are also not a realistic reference. They really don't have the ability to produce what you need to hear, for critical recording purposes. They are pleasant average consumer reference speakers. So basically, if it sounds good on those, chances are, it sounds good? If it sounds bad on those, it probably is?

    What does this tell you?

    Listen carefully.

    I think the phone is bugged?
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  8. wow im sorry that was a dumb question. for the mean time it will work but i wouldnt trust them. WAY TO MUCH ADDED COLOR AND PRESENCE and all tht other bad stuff you dont want in monitors.
     

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