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How does he get this vocal sound

Discussion in 'Vocals' started by highriser, Nov 11, 2012.

  1. highriser

    highriser Active Member

    Hey guys I'm sure you've heard of Boyce Avenue on youtube. They became famous through youtube and over the years they have made some major improvement in their videos and sound quality.


    I was just wondering because he uses the same mic in earlier videos as the later ones so that is not it. What is your best guess at what changed to give him that sound and how can I replicate it.


    here is an example of an earlier video: Goo Goo Dolls - Iris (Boyce Avenue acoustic cover) on iTunes - YouTube


    and this is more recent: Bruno Mars - It Will Rain (Boyce Avenue cover)(Twilight Soundtrack) on iTunes - YouTube
     
  2. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    just because the mic is in the video doesn't mean it's the same mic used when he recorded it
    the video is a bit jumpy on my little laptop so i can't tell if it.'s live or not.

    it could be a different mic, different pre, mixed differently, different studios, many things. the second song sounds more "compressed".
     
  3. godchuanz

    godchuanz Active Member

    Most distinctly I think it's compression, EQ and delay/reverb.
    Second one is definitely more compressed, and has more gain on the high frequencies. I believe it could also be achieved using a multi-band compressor on the vocal track.
    The reverb is also set much higher, especially the diffused tail.
     
  4. thatjeffguy

    thatjeffguy Active Member

    Ditto on both of the above posts... definitely compressed, boosted eq on the high end, delay/reverb.

    Jeff
     
  5. kmetal

    kmetal Kyle P. Gushue Well-Known Member

    one sounds live one sounds studio. if they did use a 58 they defiantly eq'd and compressed it heavily. doesn't sound like a 58 to me
     
  6. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    Well it doesn't sound like a 58 because it's a Beta 58. He just lost the blue rubber band around the metal ball on that later video but it was still a Beta. And that Beta 58 sounds more like a condenser microphone and more like a Neumann 87 than a standard SM58 does.

    I get that same sound on my recordings with both SM & Beta 58's. It's simple to get. It's easy to get. But I actually think this was a lip sync video. The reason why I think that is the guy playing the box, the box did not have a microphone on it. Yet it was quite solid in the recording. But then again, it sounded like the bass guitarist was also not completely in tune? His vocal microphone also sounded like it was gated to me? Did anybody hear him breathe? I don't think I did? But this is also why I love those SHURE microphones. They are tight. They are smooth. They sound like 87's. And they are actually one of my first choice for vocal microphones to begin with. And all you really need is a bunch of compression and a little touch of EQ. And then you can add your electronically created ambience and reverb. I think Chris would love to stick his Bruschetta reverb ambience gizmo on him? Yes I know it's not Bruschetta but it sure as hell tastes good. LOL.

    Other algorithmic ambience would do a good job also.
    Mx. Remy Ann David
     
  7. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    It's not a lip sync. If it is, he could give Britney Spears some pointers because all of those plosives and little breaths are timed just right.
     
  8. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    This is the way all songs recorded with any 58 should sound. It's so easy to get a good vocal recording with one of these. It's an SM-7, without the switches and in a more compact housing and they call it a 57 (58 with its hat on). And when recorded well will sound like a 7 or a 57 or a 87 all y'all's 7's. Remember " 7 ", is a lucky number and everyone's a winner.

    Every seven a winner
    Mx. Remy Ann David
     
  9. kmetal

    kmetal Kyle P. Gushue Well-Known Member

    yeah i meant an sm58, never used a beta. i love the senhiesser 441 on vox. fan of the sm7 too. when an 87ai is too much of a good thing, these mics seem to tone it down a bit, while maintaining similar qualities.
     

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