How to make 2 song ID's, but not separate audio?

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by 1511, Feb 4, 2007.

  1. 1511

    1511 Guest

    I'm mixing a project where 2 songs segue together, but I don't want to have an audio break for cd ID. Can I do an ID with Jam? It's going to be mastered by someone else, but I was wanting to do a quick pseudo master for demo purposes.
  2. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    Do you mean that you want 2 tracks with no pause between them?
  3. 1511

    1511 Guest

    Yes. A there needs to be no audible cut between songs, but they should list as two separate songs on the track ID. Probably not as difficult as I'm thinking?
  4. 1511

    1511 Guest

    Oh, and the songs should go from one to the other, seemlessly on the cd player.
  5. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    Ahh...that should be easy. I don't know the software you're using, so I can't give you specific instructions. I recall in Nero, there was an option to either turn off the break between tracks (and then go into a wave-form and drop your track markers) or to specify whatever length gap you want.

    Your software should have a similar option. The default is set for 2 seconds. Keep an eye out for a setting there in which that is the default and there you go.
  6. 1511

    1511 Guest

    Thanks. That was the solution. I appreciate the help.
  7. philsaudio

    philsaudio Active Member

    With Wavelab this is called play in pause.
  8. 1511

    1511 Guest

    I wanted the end of one track to overlap the beginning of the next track. So, I ended up bouncing the 2 tracks together as one file in ProTools. I then cut the bounced track and put them together in Jam with no pause. They now flow together seamlesslly, but if you want to go straight to the 2nd song on the cd, there is no fade up. It's a pretty harsh start.

    A fade would kind of undermine the whole segue thing. Is this what I'm going to have to live with?

    Thanks for the help
  9. jamesp

    jamesp Guest

    You are going to have to live with a harsh start on most CD players unless you can move the split between the songs to somewhere that makes more sense musically. Some (in fact most) mastering software will allow you to audition the effect of moving the start index without having to burn a CD. One other thing worth remembering is that some CD players automatically fade tracks in so you need to allow a little bit of time for this.



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