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How to Record Distortions like Linkin' Park

Discussion in 'Recording' started by shezan, Sep 10, 2004.


Virtual Instruments, are they Killing live musicians or Making them even stronger

  1. Killing them

  2. Its Making them even stronger and better

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  1. shezan

    shezan Guest

    hi my name is Shezan.... i have a home recording studio here is the list of equipment i have in my studio...

    Digidesign 002 rack
    Neumann TLM 103 mic
    2-SM57 & 2-SM58
    Spirit F1 mixer
    Genelac 1030A pair of monitors
    KRK K-ROK pair of Monitors
    Ensoniq's Work Station Mr-61 and Ts-10
    P4 Machine with 2GB ram,3.2 GHZ, 256MB Vdo, 300GB SCSI
    and tons of Virtual Instruments including Halion,Virtual Guitarist all three of them Atmosphere,Stylus,Trilogy and lots of them...
    i m working on softwares like
    Cubase SX2.0
    Sound Forge6
    Pro-Tools 6.1 LE
    acid pro
    i have quit a good experience in working in the pro environment but now i want to change the genre of my recording i want to record some kick ass rock music i have been recordign lots of guitar in the past but accoustic guitars only. I have listened to most of the rock music recorded in my country but that does'nt sound like the international bands guitar at all so can n e one guide me whts the seceret to this since i have never recorded rock music...but i have done rock music through plugins and virtual sounds and all but don't have experience in doing it live...
    plz guide me
  2. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
    The guys that are recording the guitars for most major productions do several things to make that huge spread guitar sound

    1. They record with multi amp set ups... three or four amps daisy chained together and all miced up separately all routed to separate tracks. Many times the guitar tracks will be re amped through the amp rigs after recording to make for even more tracks and to add more crunch and room sounds and to increase panning options. .

    2. Using the set up described above, they will record multiple passes of the same parts.. 3 or 4 times ... sometimes more.

    3. Multi mic set ups.. in great live rooms they will often use distance mics .. mic behind the cabs .. anything to add spaciousness to the sound. They pay close attention to phase issues, insuring all that lovely spread can collapse to mono without canceling itself out. Compressors can make the ambiance of a nice live room stand out more..

    5. Short reverb settings to simulate a room in stereo. Subtle use of flange and chorus to add spread and edge ..

    6. They spend days recording guitars for just one song.. because of all the overdubbing it just takes a lot of time, making sure all the performances are locking into each other, not sounding doubled but more like just one big guitar sound.
  3. inLoco

    inLoco Active Member

    Jul 25, 2004
    amen kurt!
    (but i hate linkin' park's sound on guitars :) )
    a real cool sound on guitars is the one on velvet revolver's album! great sound!
    i've read all the details on it too!
    great sound really!
  4. v3gaS

    v3gaS Guest

    Can you find the link or info on the Velvet recordings?

    I am really impressed with that album.
  5. HMNP

    HMNP Guest

    Thanks kurt, Ill definately try that.
  6. boheme6

    boheme6 Guest

    Kurt summed it up pretty well - but left out the 2 most important items.

    1. good guitars. tone starts here. notice that a lot of the new, heavy bands are playing PRS? because they're great instruments. Les Pauls? check. a good instrument will get you a better recording. make sure it's got fresh strings - properly set up - intonation is in..

    2. good amps. tone ends here. if it doesn't sound good coming out of the amp - you're not gonna fix it in software. there's a lot of options for getting great guitar sounds - and none of them include using an old 30-watt Crate combo. (not that you can't get ANY guitar sound with said Crate.. but lets be honest..)

    3. playing. practice a lot - be able to double and triple the parts TIGHTLY.

    4. follow what Kurt said above and rock on
  7. HMNP

    HMNP Guest

    How do you actually re amp and amp ??? Do I take the recorded guitar sound and run the outputs from my DAW back into the guitar amp and record it again ??
  8. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
  9. dustbro

    dustbro Guest


    here's a good link to some Linkin Park info.
  10. frais_cafe

    frais_cafe Guest


    I want to make sure I understand this too...are you saying that while tracking, you record them playing through the distorted amp (not just to a DI), and then RE-RECORD that by sending the now recorded, distorted signal back out of the computer via a mix-bus or "reamp" into another amp, set to overdrive, and record THAT as the distorted signal?!? Would you be able to hear any definition at all like that?!?

  11. bhuvan

    bhuvan Active Member

    Jan 31, 2004
    Home Page:
    we've got access to a roland amp and a marshall amp..
    will it work for a killer tone if the left channel from the guitar processor is taken to one amp and the right to the other ... and they miked at the same time in the same room..

    PS: it's not a great sounding room.
  12. inLoco

    inLoco Active Member

    Jul 25, 2004
    there is an eq mag issue that has all the background on the recording of the album! it has and akg 414 opened on the cover and it has a picture of velvet revolver too!
    that was recorded with a lot of vintage stuff and pres!
    if this helps here is a link to the equippent they have:

    if you can't find the article i'll discribe the recording!

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