How to user reverb on fake double-tracking guitar

Discussion in 'Tracking / Mixing / Editing' started by HOMERECORDER, Mar 8, 2011.

  1. HOMERECORDER

    HOMERECORDER Member

    HI everyone,

    This is my first question here.

    I want to record heavy guitar with sm57 (very dry recording ) in front of my amp.
    I will copy the original track and delay it a little bit to create a fatter tone , hard panned right/left (fake double-tracking).

    My question is : If I do that , is it necessary to add reverb to both guitar track
    to add more spatial effects and bigger sound?
    What's the best room size for a reverb on a guitar track , early reflexion and other parameter related to reverb.

    Thanks for your help

    Serge
     
  2. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    Doing this introduces an effect called comb filtering. That's not to say you definitely shouldn't do it, but it would be to your advantage to understand it and know what is sounds like. Read up on the effect. Then take your two tracks, pan them to the same singles speaker and vary the delay to hear the effect.
     
  3. Big K

    Big K Well-Known Member

    There are a few ways of achieving that, but it always is different with any production, thus hard to tell.
    Btw, for some fast & dirty demo recordings I am about to try this here, next week:
    Brainworx | bx_shredspread

    Also easy and fast is NI's Rammfire.
    NATIVE INSTRUMENTS : HOME | HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE FOR MUSICIANS, PRODUCERS, DJS, GUITAR AND BASS PLAYERS

    But, of course, you are not learing how to do it by yourself when using those.
    :-(
     
  4. leopoldolopes

    leopoldolopes Active Member

    This is the right answer for your question! You may add some reverb to both... but just a little to have more ambience and some plate imaging!
     
  5. treidm

    treidm Active Member

    +++++
    Yep, what Bob said....


    ....Reid
     
  6. assemblethelight

    assemblethelight Active Member

    In Reaper, i use the Time Delayer. Duplicate the tracks. Pan one hard left, the other hard right. Then..on the Time Delayer have the left track on about -3, the right on 6. Gives it a 3d sound. I am not sure how other DAWS do it.
     
  7. assemblethelight

    assemblethelight Active Member

    mono/center and solo the guitar and bass first. Mix them so they they complement one another. Do not let the the electric guitar cover the bass guitar up. high pass the electric around 100k. With distortion, the bass guitar does most the magic i believe. otherwise the electric can sound kinda muddy.
     
  8. keldog

    keldog Active Member

    imho....I think you'd get a fatter more interesting tone by playing and recording it twice instead of copy/paste.
    But if that's not an option then yeah.......what they /\/\/\ said.
    :cool:
     
  9. niclaus

    niclaus Active Member

    What you could to minimize comb filtering is to try and find the same guitar parts in the song and edit them so you can get 2 "different" takes of the same riffs!
    That is, for example, copy/paste the guitar part from chorus 2 to chorus 1, and vice versa...
     

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