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Discussion in 'Computers / Software' started by xBOBxSAGETx, Oct 31, 2009.

  1. xBOBxSAGETx

    xBOBxSAGETx Guest

    I have Superior Drummer 2.0 with the Metal Foundry expansion. I am not sure what program yet to start recording with. But first I would like to build a computer before I do anything. So if you guys can please reccomend computer parts to get (im 18 and have a limited budget im trying to get the most bang for the buck) I honestly know nothing but I want to make this happen I am compeltly motivated to become the best I can possibly be at recording. http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Digidesign-Pro-Tools-Mbox-Mini-Package?sku=702525 I am starting out with the mbox mini 2 recording budle. Any reccomendations or help would GREATLY be apprecaited. thanks
    alex-
     
  2. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Which parts are you asking for advice on? Are you building a pc or are you meaning advice on interface options and/or DAW options?

    If it is the former, then if you are building your own we will need more info like budget, proposed track count, plugin usage etc.

    If the latter then we need to know type(s) of music and how many individual channels you need. Most mid level interfaces come with some version of a DAW. If purchasing a DAW seperately then Reaper is a good option with very very reasonable price. Mackie's Tracktion 3 is probably the most intuitive to begin with and may be a good option too unless you have some specific needs better served by another DAW.

    Fill us in a little more.
     
  3. pmolsonmus

    pmolsonmus Well-Known Member

    If you're going DIGI then spend the time at the Digi User Conference DUC to get DIGI's specs. They are very specific re: what you can and can't use.

    It may be that you can accomplish the same thing using a different interface for less, but only you can make that call.


    Phil
     
  4. RedStache

    RedStache Active Member

    "If you're going DIGI then spend the time at the Digi User Conference DUC to get DIGI's specs. They are very specific re: what you can and can't use."

    This can't be emphasized enough! I have encountered a great deal of frustration with this very point! In our case, ProTools M-Powered will not recognize M-Box 2. A review of ProTools compatibility reveals M-Box works with LE while our ProjectMix works with M-Powered.

    Do you feel the need to build a PC? Are you against going Mac? I know I came a long way with Mac and Garageband before finding the limits and moving on. Most if not all of my experience with Garageband has at least made me aware of certain things when migrating to ProTools and Logic. Plus Garage band is actually very simple to get started with, and that success can help drive you to reach for more.
     
  5. xBOBxSAGETx

    xBOBxSAGETx Guest

    to TheJackAttack my budget on a computer is about 800 max. track meaning how many people recoring? i only need to have a mic input and a 1/4" input for guitars and bass. I have superior drummer because im not going to have the space or money to purchase drum mics and be able to afford a sound card that can hold that many mics. The music I plan on recording is going to be Hardcore/Death Metal/Djent and some Rap. I just checked out Reaper and that looks honestly sick as hell but just like superior drummer i have a cracked version as a temp until i get this thing goin pretty much all the software i need i can get. Also the person that reccomended that i get the mbox mini 2 recording bundle was these two people who do home recording please check out the quality of the recording and the drums which are all programed using superior drummer 2.0 and let me know what i need to do to get that quality

    http://www.myspace.com/iambulb (one man project)
    http://www.myspace.com/periphery (same guy BULB)

    http://www.myspace.com/volumes (very young kids all did home recordings which they use the mbox mini)
     
  6. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    Looks like my crackberry isn't the only one having a problem posting today.

    Everyone else getting an SQL error when submitting???

    [Hope no one takes offense, I'm cleaning out the duplicates etc to keep the thread more coherent-Jack]
     
  7. xBOBxSAGETx

    xBOBxSAGETx Guest

    to RedStache i dont know what going DIGI is. I dont feel the need to go with PC but i feel its the most affordable computer i can go with for NOW. i looked at macs and theyre outta my price range. and i can build a quad-core computer with really good specs for 650. also the mbox mini 2 recording bundle comes with pro tools not sure which version. but like i said previously i can get any software i want and i apologize for the multiple postings i dont know what happened
     
  8. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    BTW, by 'Going Digi' he means switching to using Digidesign's products - such as the one in the link you posted.
     
  9. xBOBxSAGETx

    xBOBxSAGETx Guest

    oh alright, like i said i am completely new to this.
     
  10. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Careful with that comment. I think you meant, "I can get any software that I can afford.". Some of us....many of us.....I dare say most of us don't take kindly to pirates.
     
  11. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    Careful With That Axe, Eugene...

    (Sorry, you just reminded me of a Floyd song there)

    :lol:
     
  12. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    "Some of us..."

    I have always appreciated how when a mirror gets held up people look into it...
     
  13. xBOBxSAGETx

    xBOBxSAGETx Guest

    to hueseph like i said though its a temp thing until i can afford it. Im 18 and i have a band that i am dedicating my heart and soul to which is why i want to start building a decent little home studio to bring in a little extra cash
     
  14. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    Completely glossed over that...

    Dude, get a cheap or freely downloadable program (like this one), save your money, then use whatever comes bundled with the I/O you buy.

    The free (and cheap ones) won't teach you any less than the expensive ones. Spend half as much as your talking about on the computer and save the rest for the HW/SW.

    Don't get yourself kicked out of here too quickly - there's way too much to learn here. It's only going to take a few more badly thought out posts on your part, trust me.

    Think long and hard before you hit the Submit button. Red pill or Blue pill?
     
  15. jg49

    jg49 Well-Known Member

    Why is it that if you are 18 and a musician "pouring your heart and soul" into something that theft is any less of crime? Oh I murdered someone but it's OK I'm a young guitar player so "honestly" it is ok. Remember the people that work on software pour their hearts and souls into their work. What if you were finally to produce a CD, years of work thousands and thousands of $s in studio time, CD reproduction costs, distribution and marketing and everybody stole it from the store, oh yeah because they are young, I forgot that would make it OK.

    GET A GRIP ON ETHICS WHILE YOU STILL CAN!
     
  16. RedStache

    RedStache Active Member

    Right on, right on, right on!

    Think about the piracy! Do you intend to work for free?

    You really do get what you pay for, trust me! Mac will come with enough to get you started and carry you a long way. A good PC will SUPPORT whatever else you do.

    The key to my post is to suggest that you plan your course carefully. We failed to investigate and are experiencing complications because of it, like having a piece of hardware we will probably spend more time or money to use!

    In short, a decent computer and the free software you pick up with hardware is enough. You probably got ProTools LE with the M-Box, ProTools that is the consumer grade, mostly meaning it is minus the big collection of plugins.

    Rock On!!!!
     
  17. xBOBxSAGETx

    xBOBxSAGETx Guest

    to jg49 i apologize that you feel that way man. but honestly like i said its a temp thing until i can afford it. and yes i do put a lot of time and money into my music. but i let all of my fans download our music for free, because you know why music is stolen everyday especially from the underground scene. its pointless to sell demos for a little extra cash. we make our money as a band from selling merch(t shirts, hats, basketball shorts, thongs, booty shorts) and we do pretty damn good. and i think with a lot of hard work and motivation i can build a decent home studio. so i do understand where youre coming from and i do think about the peopel who put a lot of work into the programs that i take. but like when i download music i use it for preview purposes only. so i apologize to everyone on here that i have offended i mean nothing buy it, but i am broke fellas i dont have a full time job i make my money by doing gigs and selling merch! but i am starting a job at a warehouse next week so ill be buying these programs sooner than you think!
     
  18. xBOBxSAGETx

    xBOBxSAGETx Guest

    to brent. i am definitely not trying to get kicked out. i know theres lots to learn so i am going to have to watch what i say on here and again i apologize man. i really do.
     
  19. xBOBxSAGETx

    xBOBxSAGETx Guest

    to RedStache ive been looking for a gently used mac for quite some time. but they seem not to depreciate in value too much when used hahahaha. i know that macs are the best to use i really do want one but its looking like moeny is going to limit me!
     
  20. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Reaper has a free trial and then when you get on your feet you can pony up the $60 for a full license.
     

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