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I need one more mic input on my interface for recording drum

Discussion in 'Drums' started by Chris07413, May 10, 2009.

  1. Chris07413

    Chris07413 Guest

    I need a solution for recording drums with the lexicon lambda. I have been micing drums by putting a sm58 right up against the hole on the kick, and a mxl 991 over head. The recorded sounds nice and i can mix them in seperate tracks using Cubase LE, except i cant controll the snare as much as i'd like to. I have another seinheiser dynamic mic that i could use for close micing the snare, but the lambda interface can only take 2 mic inputs at a time. Is there anyway that i could have three mics going in without buying a new interface or a mixer? I think this might be possible by getting like a little converter piece so it can go in as a 1/4 instrument able, or by getting a mic chord splitter.
  2. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Re: I need one more mic input on my interface for recording

    No. You have a two channel interface. You need more gozintas.
  3. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    A gozouta gozinta a bar...
  4. soapfloats

    soapfloats Well-Known Member

    You COULD combine the snare and the kick mics with a "Y" cable.
    Of course, now you have the problem of one track w/ two sources.
    Which means you can't affect the snare w/o affecting the kick.
    Your snare will be more "present" but you really won't gain much more control - certainly not worth the loss of control of the kick.
    Just try and place the 991 to better capture the snare.
  5. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    This is poor advice. You should never do this.

    If you want to combine sound from several microphones into one track, use a small mixer.
  6. soapfloats

    soapfloats Well-Known Member

    Sorry Boswell, I hoped to indicate that while possible, doing so was a bad idea. Not strongly enough, apparently.

    Having never tried doing so myself, I suppose the benefits of a small mixer vs a Y-connecter is b/c of the fact that the mixer sums while the Y does not? Thus introducing other issues besides lack of isolation?
  7. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    A mixer gives you control over the relative levels.

    A Ycable will still sum but with no control.

    A mixer is essentially a bunch of volume controls (resistors) followed by a summer. A summer IMO takes inputs and produces a mix of all of them at the same volume.

    (Summer is really a season but that's not important right now)
  8. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    And stop calling me Shirley!
  9. JoeH

    JoeH Well-Known Member

    Really? NO, Reily!

    The problem with "Y" connections is also impedance load when blending the two together. You may get some ugly-sounding results. Add to that output transformers (with or without) and you're just asking for trouble. I'm sure your Phantom power source won't be happy, either.

    I remember (back in the bad old days) that some folks used to "Y" connect two dynamic mics together. (Club bands, live acts, etc. on a poor-mans budget). The sound was about what you'd expect: GIGO.

    Get a small mixer and do a stereo submix if you want more. Even a little used Mackie 1202 from Craigslist or Ebay won't set you back much more than one of your mics.
  10. robcranmer

    robcranmer Guest

    Easy low-cost fix....get an electret condenser mic like the Shure pg-81...and plug into the guitar input while running your other mics through the mic-pre's!!! The pg actually doesn't sound bad compared to mic's that cost a lot more...You can use it for virtually anything too!!!
  11. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    If the OP had an external preamp he could use the Lambda as a pseudo mixer by plugging into the line level. Plugging a dynamic mic into a guitar input via a converter cable will sound like ass if it gets a usable level at all. The Lambda by design only records two discreet channels period. Combining the line inputs with the mic inputs does not change that. It also prevents any sort of real adjustments in a DAW.
  12. Chris07413

    Chris07413 Guest

    Thanks everyone for your inputs. i think im just going to experiment positioning with the overhead make to get more snare.
  13. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    Wise - what you learn by messing about with a mic will do you more good than throwing cash at gear.

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