If anyone needs any help mixing and mastering......

Discussion in 'Tracking / Mixing / Editing' started by xplicitstudios, Dec 23, 2010.

  1. Hi, ive been mixing and mastering and recording for about 2 years now, im not a vet at this, im still learning but ive learned alot through much trial and error and would like to reach out and share or help anyone needing assistance with their projects as i would like to be able to reach out to some vets for help and info when i need it... So if anyone has any questions or just wants to network please dont hesitate to PM me on here. I hope to learn alot more while im here. :biggrin:
     
  2. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    Who wrote those "advice" articles, a 12-year old? Nice that you've been "...mixing, mastering, and recording for about 2 years". Whoever wrote those articles had a lot more balls than brains, no doubt.
    Glad that you can "vouche" (douche?) for the quality of the MXL condenser mics. There's someone always wanting to unload one of those POS mics on the local CL for $50. And you certainly wouldn't want to put up one of those horrible RE-20, 421, or (God forbid) an SM58 in front of a singer. You NEED all of the crappy artifacts that a poorly-treated room (with that POS no-fire-safety-rated foam you advertise) that a Chinese LDC will pick up, fer sure, dude...
    If you could READ, you would have a lot better insight to the business and not rely on the GC salesperson/madam to tell you what to buy. Then that would help with miserable spelling (it's "whether" not wheather, "vouch" not vouche, and I stopped there, it was too painful to continue).
    I'm sorry to be a curmudgeon, but this is just too much to take in one post.
     
  3. Wow, you must be a really unsatisfied person lol....... first of all those sites are intended for beginners, people who have an interest in making music and have never done it before, its not intended for EXPERIENCED persons so yes the instructions need to be explained in the simplest form to where even a 12 year old could understand. Not everyone is able to drop 10000 dollars on a new home studio. THATS THE POINT OF THOSE SITES. And as for a DOUCHE?? haha im not the 55 year old who goes out of his way to harass someone who only has good intentions and is willing to lend a helping hand and willing to learn. if anyone is a douche its YOU. How dare you act like you set some sort of standard. Sounds like your trying to overcompensate for something if you ask me.. and as for my spelling, i type so fast i dont really care.. did you really read through and pick out every miss spelled word???? you're sad. This is the last time i will ever respond to ANYTHING negative along with this discussion with you.



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  4. Big K

    Big K Well-Known Member

    :-(

    He will be devastated...
    Moonbaby is such a delicate sensitive person that he will have a hard time to drag his 55 years old fragile self to the xmas tree, now...
    Pitty, that I can't seem to find the articles he got so aroused about... Do you have a copy?

    But be warned.. I am probably worse then he is... A real badass at 50...
    ;-)
     
  5. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    And then theres me.......lets pray the leash doesnt snap!

    So, its okay to misspell things due to the fact that there might be beginners and twelve-year-olds reading your tripe?

    Oh, well then, carry on.


    Wait a minute! Its all clear at last. All these years I've been doing it wrong. I'm gonna have to sell my mic collection and get me some of those MXL thingys. Especially the ones "specifically designed" to record instrument sound. I have a lot of instrument sound here in my "extra room" so I'll be setting up shop there. What kind of 'blankets' should I get? Electric ones? Horse blankets? Security blanket?

    Now as a curious type of person I have a couple of questions. I sure am glad I have someone with lots of experience to answer them.errr.....won't some of the sound simply pass through the blankets and bounce off the walls anyway? I read that somewhere. And what about the corners of my "extra room"? Don't bass frequencies gather there? These walls are nice and straight and the corners are square. Is this a problem?

    Of course I could buy some of that foam stuff your selling, but I would worry about fire....Its probably okay though. I've got advice from someone with a couple years experience to guide me.

    Well, I'm sure glad its all so easy.




    You know whats really easy? Spell checking. Fooling people into thinking you know what you're doing. Linking to gitarget for all your professional recording needs. Recommending the worst piece of crap mics on Earth. What? Do you get a kick-back?

    While it is GREAT to share with folks.....I do.....Moon does....BigK does....and know what? Theres 100 years of expert advice to be had there..... You should AT LEAST have a handle on what is right and is wrong with what you're telling people.

    I dont think you know either. And if you dont "get" what is being pointed out then your LACK of knowledge will be self-evident.

    Rant over for the time being. Except....take down your link to products. Or I will.
     
  6. song4gabriel

    song4gabriel Active Member

    He's obvsiouly a real pro- his gear profile lists "Linux".
     
  7. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Poor kid. I beat up on him in the computer forum in the wee small hours too.
     
  8. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    When you come on here with "How To" primers, links to crap gear or acoustic treatment, and swear up and down that this is the gospel, you better be ready to back it up with some real know-how.

    Merry Christmas Ya'll.
     
  9. djmukilteo

    djmukilteo Well-Known Member

    kids on xmas break using their Mom's computer....what can ya say?!
    I noticed he likes free stuff.....including his naive advice..
    the spelling thing is a tell tale youngster sign/thing...they just don't care..its kind of sad really....I see it all the time even in professional engineering environments....when I have to check spec reports or technical instructions...I get so disgusted....when I redline or correct them they chuckle and are not embarrassed at all by how ignorant that looks on something technical....sad....very sad...I would like to send them all back to grammar school....

    FWIW I actually own 2 copies of TuneUp Utilities....2007 version ($29.95) and I just recently updated to the 2010 version ($19.95) and it is a great product. The free demo version which I'm sure he was talking about as the "torrent not bootleg" is just that....free trial demo version....but doesn't have the full paid for version capabilities....
    Linux....Haha....there's a "Red" hat herring...Audacity and FL...LOL...Vista?....seriously?....Vista?....seriously

    Well Merry Xmas to all cuz I'm still up at 3:00AM waiting for Santa to get here for some cookies and tea!
    Hehe!
    Oh and Santa just told me no shiny recording toys for naughty ignorant little boys and girls who have some sort of entitlement complex!
     
  10. MadMax

    MadMax Well-Known Member

    All I can say is....


    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!


    O M G... this is toooo funny....

    I was head down in a mix over Christmas, and missed out on this... Hate I missed the party.


    Gents, at least the kid has ballz enough to think he's the next Eddie Kramer/Klause Heyne/Frances Manzella... NOT!

    Just a shame that there are probably more than a few poor souls that have actually listened to the tripe of uninformed ignorance and think there's some truth to it. If he survives longer than a coupla' weeks at this, and actually gains some sort of knowledge of value, and continues to pass it on... he might be a decent chap to deal with... but I ain't holding my breath.
     
  11. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Ahhhhh, we bwoke his widdow heart.
     
  12. djmukilteo

    djmukilteo Well-Known Member

    You guys are sooo mean!
     
  13. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    Geez, when I first posted my response to this poor guy's original posting, some sort of pop-up said that my post was being held so that it could be approved by a moderator. I thought, " Man, I'm gonna get busted for this. So long, RO!" I guess some of the words I used were flags, understandable, but I felt guilty!
    I wasn't meaning to mean, I just resented the condescending attitude of this kid, and it looked like a repeat of a posting earlier this year. Glad that I wasn't the only one who felt that way.
    HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL ! ! !
     
  14. djmukilteo

    djmukilteo Well-Known Member

    I'm sure Davedog called it early on with the links he had posted below his message and the content of that.
    It was probably someone trying to use the forum for marketing and not really legit.
    Just a thought but RO should create a special forum group listed on the front page to trap and filter out these sort of people.
    Maybe name it something catchy and interesting and special, but only existing members would know what it was and why...and that way we could be entertained by the flys who get snagged or trapped in the thread...
    Sick I know, but it could be funny!
     
  15. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    The old peststrip trick ehhhh? Sounds like a plan.
     
  16. JohnTodd

    JohnTodd Well-Known Member

    If anyone needs any help mixing and mastering......

    Mastering in 3 EZ steps:

    1. Find an experienced Mastering Engineer.

    2. Kneel.

    3. Pray for his guidance.

    Repeat step 1, 2, and 3 until you have all his qualifications and experience. Should take 10-20 years.

    As an artist, I (usually) know better than to tread on Holy Ground. When I do tread, it's an accident that I try and learn from after licking my wounds. Suggest you do the same.

    (But seriously...lighten up on the newbs. We can learn, too! If he lacks the required humility, he will be forced out of the industry anyway.)
     
  17. Big K

    Big K Well-Known Member

    I like "Kneel" part...
    ROFL...
     
  18. MadMax

    MadMax Well-Known Member

    Good stuff... very humorous John. Thanks for the chuckle.

    As far as taking it easy on newbs... I think you'll generally find that RO IS easy on newbs! That's one of the things that I really do like about RO. There is a huge tolerance for folks who just don't know.

    Most of the road dogs and old farts in the ranks of RO, spend huge amounts of energy trying to educate and support newcomers to the forum and the recording arts. (...and they do this for free, too!)

    The reason that poor widdle xplicit caught a rash of it, is because he knows squat level about the recording process, mastering, gear and acoustics, but has big brass nads implying that he's da' shiz.

    We simply called him on it... that's all.

    I've been at this most of my life, part-time, and now full-time... and I've barely scratched the surface of what all there is to know.

    I've learned by trial and error, steppin' on my own pee-pee and steppin' right in it. I've had my ballz busted PLENTY. Some was deserved, some not... but such is the nature of this business.

    If you never flown a bunch of boxes over 30 feet in the air, never worked with a national crew, never built a real studio or never worked on a full scale project, you have no idea how real the pressure is. There's lives at stake and serious money involved. That's a game changer.

    xplicit evidently thinks that he/she is at a level of professionalism, knowledge and experience after two years, that it qualifies him to hang a shingle out and be respected as an expert.

    Sorry, mate... this just don't fly.

    As I said, if the kid can take his spankin'/wrist slap from those that DO have more experience, and a better idea of what it REALLY takes... and come out the other end with a decent attitude... he'll be all the better for it. But as I previously stated, that don't typically happen... so he'll likely tuck tail and run away.
     
  19. JohnTodd

    JohnTodd Well-Known Member

    Max makes some really good points, Xplicit.

    I'm an old fart artist, been doing music all my life starting at age 5 with my first piano concert. Debuted professionally at 14, toured nationally before college, and toured globally from 1989-1995.

    There's an old saying: you can be an artist or an engineer. The RO website is populated mostly by engineers. If you are an artist you must learn to deal with them carefully. They are very good at what they do. Most of them can't make new music for crap, but they can make your music sound great. Artists and engineers are a team, and each team member must be careful not to step on the others.

    If you are an artist, then do what I do: Concentrate on creating new music. Make stuff people actually want to listen to. And learn engineering as a means to an end. Learn engineering so you can communicate and appreciate the engineers. Learn it so you can set up your own studio for your private use. But if you are an accomplished artist, you won't have time to learn enough to make a pro studio for hire.

    If you are an engineer, then learn to play an instrument and sing! THIS MEANS ALL OF YOU! Even if you don't write new songs, learn the old classics. Learn some Beatles songs on guitar and voice. Record yourself and play in time / sing in tune. Learn to appreciate the artist. I've been trashed out by two engineers who basically thought "How dare an artist have ideas about his own art." I fired one of those guys, the other quit on his own. Both were replaced within hours.

    The overwhelming majority of the engineers I've worked with are "professionals", even if only part time workers. Their pleasant attitude made up for their lack of accomplishments in the field of the Arts or the Sciences.

    An artist can learn engineering, and an engineer can learn artistry. The problem is that human beings don't live long enough to be really good at both of those things. It would take 2 lifetimes to get "professional" at both of them, and we don't have that option, reincarnation notwithstanding.

    There is much more to learn and always will be. That's half the fun, right there.

    Now, please excuse me, I'm actually taking a break from a session. I'm working on my latest soon-to-be-rejected smash hit!
     
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  20. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    It is my opinion, you don't become excellent at anything until you have 10,000 hours into it. I stopped counting at 20,000 hours and I am just starting to get the hang of it. And that is only with the wiring lol.

    I feel for newbies and I know all of us know what its like to be one. We all started out with a cable in our hand. And we all learned our skills by listening. Over the last 12 years here, we have always been very tolerant, if not the most! I think the best thing going on recording.org is we don't accept BS here and never have.
    If there is one inclination of BS... stomp it out. It makes us a better pro audio community. If the members takes offense to a majority opinion.. And begins to push, those types of members aren't worth keeping around. Best they go to the less pro sites plagued with all the shills and BS.

    Everyone is welcome to read, but you cannot even register here anymore unless you know something about recording. I may in fact increase the level of understanding.

    Cheers!
     

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