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importing into sonar 2.2XL

Discussion in 'Sonar' started by Trendkill, Jul 31, 2003.

  1. Trendkill

    Trendkill Guest

    Ive been using FL Studio to create beats for my songs and importing them into songs in sonar 2.2XL. But after importing a few waves, sonar will start to speed up the wave while importing. if I try the same beat in mp3 format instead it will import at the right tempo but will add loud "pops". I tried playing the same files in winamp with no problems. they were the right tempo and had no pops, so it has something to do with sonar. does anyone know the cause or solution? or has had experiance with this in other DAW's?
     
  2. kevinwhitect

    kevinwhitect Active Member

    IMO the most likely culprit is a sample rate/bit depth conversion trouble.

    When you say that things are "speeding up" is the pitch changing also?

    Or am I reading this wrong and you're able to get some beats loaded fine, and upon import of additional tracks, that's where the problem occurs?

    Best-

    Kev.
     
  3. Trendkill

    Trendkill Guest

    no, theres no pitch change. and it seems it doesnt always work on the first import.
    it seems to speed up at the end of the imported file. if its small than it will get real fast real quick, but if I pourposly make it 15x the sizt it should be then slice it down to size the beats match up. it a pain in the ass, I have to go beat by beat instead of just bringing in all the drums at once.
     
  4. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    What are the options when you export the files out of FL Studio? Are there any specific settings you can make in any way?

    As I have not messed around with that program I personally don't know.

    Let us know and maybe that's where the problem
    lies

    Opus :D
     
  5. Trendkill

    Trendkill Guest

    These are my export options from Fl Studio, but Like I say, they play fine in winamp.
     
  6. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    well, of course they play fine in Winamp...you're exporting them as MP3 files!

    Export them as WAV files! That's what you need to do! Since MP3 is highlighted that's what you are going to be saving them as!!

    Opus :D
     
  7. Blutone

    Blutone Guest

    A picture is worth a 1000 words. However, it won't take 1000 words to give a solution. :D You need to change the looping mode to "cut" or "wrap" remainder. As far as the output goes, Gary is right .wav is the best format to go with for your loops. Other than that everything should be cool. HTH
     
  8. Blutone

    Blutone Guest

    A tip: When creating your loops remember that cutting the loop will do just that. It will cut the sound at the end of the beat(i.e. any cymbol crash/splashes, effects trails, etc.). Wrapping them will take the remaining sound(past the beat) and "wrap" it around to the begining of the loop. I will often create 2 loops. The first, which is cut, will begin the song(usually 1 repetition). This way it won't start out with an unwanted splash or trail. The second, which is wrapped, will be used for the rest of the song. Because the second loop is wrapped, it will sound as if a slash or effect trail is carried into the next rep of the loop. HTH and G'luck. :D
     
  9. falkon2

    falkon2 Well-Known Member

    Opus and friends: (Hey whaddya know, I'm beginning to talk like Alecio :D )
    Hence his original attempt to use MP3.

    I've never had that speeding up problem while importing. However, sometimes SONAR has gone completely bonkers an played everything back at like 4x speed everytime I hit play, and the only way to fix is a reboot. I suspect it's a driver conflict/problem at work in my case.

    The file lengths and such are correct, though. It's just playback that's screwed.
     
  10. kevinwhitect

    kevinwhitect Active Member

    falkon2-

    A driver conflict is exactly what it is....

    I had that identical problem with another machine back a couple machines ago...in Win98se...

    Like you, rebooting reset everything and it would begin to work again.

    Best-

    Kev.
     
  11. johnclark2

    johnclark2 Guest

    Hi All,

    As Blutone has said "A picture is worth a thousand words"

    And what I see in the picture above is that Trendkill is saving his file as an "Acidized" file. In doing so, When that file is imported into SONAR it will stretch or shrink to match the current project tempo. So if the loop was created in FL at say 80bpm and then saved with the parameters in the picture above, then imported into SONAR and the current SONAR project tempo is say 100bpm then yes that loop will stretch to match the current project tempo which is 100bpm and sound faster. So from what I see, the key here is either to not save the file as an "Acidized" file or make sure that the SONAR Project that you're importing to is set at the same tempo as your newly saved "Acidized" file.

    Damn.....I just noticed the dates of these posts. I sure hope you haven't been going this long without a solution to your plight. And if you have...I hope this post helps.

    JHC :p:
     
  12. kevinwhitect

    kevinwhitect Active Member

    Doh!

    Nice catch John!

    Best-

    Kev.
     

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