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Integrating Voiceworks with Great River ME-1NV and FMR RNC to Saffire Pro 24 Dsp

Discussion in 'Recording' started by embrace, Jul 16, 2011.

  1. embrace

    embrace Active Member

    ive had the great river hooked up with the fmr using the patch jack.

    but now where does the voiceworks go?

    and what wiring do i need and how to hook it up? :confused:

    im relatively new when it comes to external gear and routing so help would be greatly appreciated!
     
  2. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    The Voiceworks would be patched between whatever channels are send back (left right) to your DAW.

    example:

    DAW> Vocal(s) DA bus out Left/right to Saffire Pro 24 DSP > Vocals analog outs > Voiceworks in > Voiceworks out > Saffire Pro 24 DSP analog in> AD back to DAW as an Aux or record to a new track. I think this is how it goes for you.

    Hope that helps.
     
  3. embrace

    embrace Active Member

    sorry im still confused.

    the voiceworks has a mono input, L and R balanced output, an XLR input, MIDI in/out/thru, and a pedal jack and s/pdif in/out.

    can you start from the mic and help me flow it all together?

    example: sm7b to great river with xlr> etc.

    i need help from the beginning unless its easy to just add the voiceworks in there.

    im not used to have to wire things with different chords and worrying about balanced/unbalanced, and where things go in order.

    sorry im so confused.
     
  4. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    What DAW are you using?
     
  5. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    I'm not familiar with the Focusrite's Saffire PRO 24 DSP so I'll study it for a while and try to help you best I can. If other out there are more familiar, please chime in. I've moved this topic to the Home Recording Forum..

    In the mean time, if you haven't already, look over these video's on the Focusrite Channel so you become more familiar with it. At this point, forget what I posted above. Setting it up is your biggest learning curve right now:

    ‪FocusriteTV's Channel‬‏ - YouTube



    and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlPGy-DVRik&feature=fvwrel

    Here is a tutorial using it with ProTools. The basic setup apply with other DAWs to so if your not using ProTools, don't sweat it yet.

     
  6. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    First thing first is getting the Saffire 24 connected to your DAW. Forget about the other gear you have right now. You need to get familiar with the Saffire before you get past go. Study the manual over and over.

    Is the Saffire connected to your computer and are you able to record using the two Focusrite preamps? Get that right and the rest of your questions will fall into place.

    Cheers!
     
  7. embrace

    embrace Active Member

    i had everything else hooked up before i got the voiceworks. so i had the mic>great river with the rnc hooked up to the patch jack>saffire pro 24dsp>computer/DAW.

    i had that all working just fine, but adding the voiceworks into it is confusing me.
     
  8. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    sorry for the delay, good you have it going!

    To be honest, your system isn't well designed for adding external hardware processors they way I use them. In my opinion, hardware in the price range aren't as good as the plug-ins. If I was you, I would be using plug-ins for this type of an effect processor. Its so much easier to route things in the DAW (ITB) without all the fuss extra expense and... noise from modest hardware.

    Being said, you would need to assign whatever track, either singular or a group of mono tracks to bus (DA) out of your DAW and into your converter. or within the Saffire Pro mixier. From there, run a mono analog out of the Saffire into your Voiceworks and then back into your Saffire to creat a stereo image. This all go back to your DAW (ITB) an a seperate stereo track or as an effect in a aux loop.

    Because that Voiceworks is a mono in processor, you are already subjecting one big negative in todays DAW world. If you were using this in a live mixing console, its more simple and IMO, more useful. I don't ever use gear like this so I'm really not much help for you beyond this point. Anything designed with a mono in and a faux stereo out causes all sorts of phasing issue in my books. At best, it might be okay for widening mono tracks like vocals and guitars but watch the phasing that happens.

    Bottom line... I think you'd do much better investing in a plug-in version of that for the system you have right. The Great River is a choice preamp. good one there!
     

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