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Is there something fundamentally bad about this tone? (metal

Discussion in 'Recording' started by voidar, Jun 27, 2005.

  1. voidar

    voidar Guest


    Would you say?


    This is basically straight from mic. I have used some 1173-ish plugin compression on all tracks. Stereo-delay and flanger on lead-guitar.

    I would EQ this further if I where to mix in other instruments, but as is now.
    Some people have commented on this sounding "hollow", "muddy" or straight out "bad", and having some "obscene frequencies".

    I pretty much like it though, and so do some other people. Throaty, dark, yet clear.

    Is this love/hate?
  2. killersoundz

    killersoundz Guest

    Yeah I don't know. Is there bass drum in that? or drums at all or do you just have a snare drum player? Although you want most of your guitar beef in the midrange, yours is just too much and sounds pretty thin.
  3. voidar

    voidar Guest

    It's a metronome playing with bass drum om counts and snare on bars.

    It's a low-mid sound. If you would try to EQ it with a good EQ I am sure you will find the frequencies to be there.
  4. Tommy P.

    Tommy P. Well-Known Member

    Jan 10, 2002
    Although metal music is something I need to shift mindsets for(say by thirty years or so :) ), I like the feel of what you are playing.

    But the sound is missing definition, and it may be that the performance is weak and out of sync with the rhythm track. Definition is as much in the hands, and maybe more so than in guitar/amptone. That said, I thought it sounded better with a boost around 500-700k.

    Do you have a good guitar equalizer pedal? I think its a must for good metal tones.
  5. voidar

    voidar Guest

    There's some combfiltereing going on I believe making it sound hollow, or kind of "old-school".

    I am pretty much a guitar straight in the amp guy, so no.
    I ran my amps line-out through NI GuitarRig for the cab-simulations. How does this sound?
  6. Tommy P.

    Tommy P. Well-Known Member

    Jan 10, 2002
    I think I like the second clip better in sound and performance, but now I like the sound of the first one too... its all subjective I guess.

    Second clip is a nice mesmerizing metal grind, is the time signature
    5+6 ?

    I still hear the drum beat a bit out of sync. Is the 5+6 guitar part played over a 4/4 drum beat with accent on the one, or was the drum beat added later in real time?
  7. voidar

    voidar Guest

    Yes, I would say that the tones are all usable. Some have complained a lot on the first one there, calling it hollow, muddy etc.

    The last clip has a metronome playing 4/4, so the riff is odd-time. It was sort of inspired by a Meshuggah riff.

    The performance on both are very first take. I was more into showing of the tone.

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