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Jumping into recording

Discussion in 'Recording' started by gmar, Oct 27, 2011.

  1. gmar

    gmar Active Member

    Hey guys, I'm a drummer/percussionist (mostly trap set). I've found myself in a band, at the age of 23, that desperately needs to be recorded decently (not just setting a microphone between us and plugging into garage band). So, since I have some resources at my disposal, I've decided to make my initial investments.

    Not to waste anyone's time, I did some of my own research. I've decided, mostly due to being on a trap set, I'd like to have 4 or more inputs for mics. I believe this puts me at wanting 4+ XLR inputs on the device I want and moreover I'll want those to be (pre)amplified to line level. Since I'm playing with a bassist and guitarist (and a violin, perhaps), I may need 8 inputs. I'd like to do live recordings of practice on occasion and I'd like to record our demo early early next year. My aim isn't professional, my fund aren't there. I'm working with, roughly 500.

    Now, I do have some nice gear already. Mostly computer wise, though. I'll be building a rig with a i5 3.3ghz quadcore 8gig of ram and other equivalent hardware (I was thinking of booting off of a SSD, we'll see). Something I built -- so it'll run Windows 7 64bit. Other things I have: SM57 and an AKG220. Outside of this, I'm starting anew with limited funds. Again, I'm fine with the quality not being professional -- I'd just like to get some knowledge of the field, mike some instruments and do a demo. I've been in the studio several times for drums, never manning the boards in any capacity. But I am well aware how tedious this process can be.

    Another thing I am interested in is a PA system for the aforementioned band. I wonder if some of the hardware I'm looking at can work as a mixer or something like that for the PA.

    So, here is what I've come up with, I'm very new so please let me know what you think and make any recommendations:

    Since I need the inputs: Tascam US1800 Audio Interface. I'll have USB2.0 and the mics I need.
    I'll use Cubase that comes with it. I've played around with DAWs, and seen them used at advanced levels, but I'm not there myself.

    Mics: AKG220 (have), 3xSM57 (have 1), SM58, and a kick drum mic (like a Shure Beta52a, or cheaper?)? Also, a condenser for mic for the violin, right (maybe the akg?)?
    Headphones: Already have AKG271ks.

    From there I think I'm basically on track once I have appropriate mic stands and the like. I know ideally I'd want a separate a/d converter and separate mic preamps, but that is likely far out of my price range.

    Is there something I'm missing? Anything I should consider? I'm slow to make the purchase being so new, but I'd like to get started soon. Any advice is welcome. Thanks!
     
  2. homestudioguy

    homestudioguy Active Member

    Save up and buy something better.

    Save up and buy something better. You'll be glad you did.
    See post below.

     
  3. homestudioguy

    homestudioguy Active Member

    Save up more money!!

    The Mackie Onyx 1620i mixer would allow you to do live PA work as well as multi-track Firewire Recording for $899.
    Here is link 1:Onyx-i Series FireWire Recording Mixers
    Here is Link 2:Mackie Onyx 1620i | Sweetwater.com
    It has 16 channels with 8-XLR's and 4 mono/stereo channels, decent preamps, nice eq, lots of intos and outofs and works with a number of DAW SOftware Programs including SONAR, ProTools, Cubase, Logic, Ableton Live and more.
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  4. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Compared, PreSonus StudioLive 16.0.2, 16.4.2 or 24.4.2 is ideal for live gigs, live recording and in the studio. Has the interface and will record 16 or 24 tracks at once. Can cascade them if needed. Currently, no comparison to anything in its league. Comes with everything you need. I'm pretty sure you will save more going this way than the Mackie. Pretty sure the StudioLive's preamps are better too.

    Check out all the videos to see which one best suits your band. Here the dealer skinny on their starter console 16.0.2 for 1299.00

    Cheers!

    PreSonus StudioLive 16.0.2 | Sweetwater.com
     
  5. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    2nd the Presonus. I like Mackie Onyx preamps but the Studio Live is a much more complete package than the current iOnyx and way more of a package than the older Onyx boards. If you were in Europe then I'd say go with the Allen Heath ZED R16/GS24 instead.
     
  6. homestudioguy

    homestudioguy Active Member

    I actually thought of the PreSonus initially but looking at his stated $500 budget, I kept the dollar amount lower.
    I use a Yamaha n12 and would most likely switch to the 16.0.2 dollar for dollar.
     
  7. assemblethelight

    assemblethelight Active Member

    Presonus hands down. We use one in the studio
     

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