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Keep getting errors

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Guitarfreak, Jun 13, 2009.

  1. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    I keep getting the error 'disc too slow or system overload'

    I am recording a guitar combo jacked to the max and the recording keeps stopping with the same error. Could I be overloading the interface?

    Here's the chain.

    Marshall AVT50 > SM57 > PreSonus FireBox > Logic

    I set the input pre's on the box so it's not coming through too hot, but maybe there is a max input dB or something? (I'm reaching here) Not sure if this is common or what could be causing it. If you need more info/details I will be glad to oblige.

    Thanks
    -Jake
     
  2. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Are you recording to an external hard drive?
     
  3. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Indeed I am good sir.
     
  4. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    I'm s(h)ure you made s(h)ure your external was 7200 rpms. Right? If it is 5400rpms it ain't fast enough. At any rate this is definitely a bus overload error. Mac users all swear they don't need to defrag their hard drives so I hesitate to suggest it but......

    How much is plugged into your USB port? Anything you can turn off or unplug? Remember that USB is "dumb."

    If I remember you are on a Mac so I'm limited to vaguely remembering OS 6 or something like that. Back then I was more concerned with an X at 12 o'clock than purely audio.
     
  5. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Actually yeah it is 7200 RPM, or so the internet says. I do have a bunch of stuff plugged into USB ports though. They aren't being used in the recording process though, are you saying they are screwing something up? The drive I am referring to is pretty full, about 2 Gb left on it. I'm thinking this is also a probable cause.
     
  6. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    You run a Mac don't cha Jake? Notebook?

    Seems that all the things you may recal from your PC days might be of some help. E.G. turn off anything that isn't part of the recording process, etc.

    I have read that freezing tracks can help and to not have software instrument tracks selected while recording.

    Mac-Rumors.com/some stuff you might want to look at
     
  7. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    I'll look at that link you posted in a minute, but i just wanted to defend myself here for a second. Yes I run a mac, but not a notebook, an iMac desktop. I quit everything except for Logic. I didn't have any kind of software or plugs running at time of recording. All other tracks were muted and their respective plugs bypassed. My wireless connection was turned off.

    That said, I will now read your link :D
     
  8. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Two things. USB is a "dumb" connection and doesn't prioritize or compartmentalize very well or at all.

    If you destination drive is too close to being full then there might not be enough space for the temp folder cache and the actual recorded audio.

    That said, 2 gig is still quite a bit. I'd look to either unplugging unused USB devices or if you are using a hub, go directly from the drive to the computer.
     
  9. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Hmm, I have the USB plugged direct into the computer specifically for the purpose you mentioned, but i am using a hub out of another USB input. I guess I will unplug that and try it again. Except you know...my keyboard and mouse are plugged into it so...I can't unplug those
     
  10. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    Just stating the obvious Gf...it's all educated guesswork.
     
  11. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Sorry man. I told you my Mac chops were rusty. I can still hit a target center at 600 meters with open iron sights though.
     
  12. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    No offense taken :D Glad to receive your help at any time buddy.
     
  13. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Well in the spirit of spending a bunch of money, do you think I should look into a firewire HD? I have always thought I should have gotten one, but recently it has become glaringly obvious that I should. I think the 2GB free is one such reason... And if this issue is cause by USB clock speed and/or bottlenecking then there's another reason to go firewire.
     
  14. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Just another stab in the dark. Are all of you USB ports 2.0? If not then plug the HID (mouse/keyboard) into the 1.0 and use the 2.0 port for the HDD.
     
  15. jammster

    jammster Active Member

    Jake, My experience has been sometimes there are funny quirks with Logic.

    Its good to save your files on an hourly basis or so when working on a tune.

    After having a system freeze I Shut the system down, let it sit for a minute or two and reboot.

    I find that running a couple of different usb 2.0 drives helps so you can back one up while you use the one that has free space. Save your files to DVD-R or something similar.

    Its best to save at least two different copies of your work, NOTHING sucks more than loosing a session. I've learned in the past. I try to keep up on it, however there is always the concern that a drive may fail.

    I think it really helps to have a drive that has at least 10% left empty. There is usually no worries.
     
  16. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    I always use usb hard drives. On my desktop actually I use eSATA. When I dust it off and fire it up that is. I have about six USB enclosures with drives of various sizes. Two are redundant and massive sized that store my finished projects. I spin them up once a month in order to keep the spindles lubed. Sometimes I back up finished projects to DVD-DL but not often.

    My philosophy is that I want the Firewire to be strictly audio interface streaming and all HID and HDD's go on USB 2.0 (or the aforementioned eSATA).
     
  17. jammster

    jammster Active Member

    I'm totally hip with that.

    When I first updated my system in may 2007, I had not made a new computer purchase since the Texas Instruments TI 99 4A when I was a kid.

    Seriously, I think new computers are a rip off until now days when you actually get performance.

    I had tried recording through the firewire interface with a drive hooked up to the through port once. It was making zipper noise in the background. The "Genius" at the apple store told me it would be fine.

    Don't trust someone who does not know what there talking about. The only way to really learn is to do the research and read up on the facts. Then of course you have to try it for yourself.

    The wonderful thing about the RO forum is that you get plenty of info about what problems are out there with different situations and environments.
     
  18. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Hey, you mentioned defragging my drives. How is this possible? I have done research for free defrags for mac but haven't really found much. MacJanitor, and Cocktail claim to do everything you need but they only take like 2 seconds. Without a long defrag process I don't feel like I accomplish anything :) That's ignoring the fact that I don't think they defrag at all.

    Maybe all I need is a simple console code?
     
  19. jammster

    jammster Active Member

    Hey Guitarfreak, I heard that OSX defrags are not needed. Just leave your computer on and at night it will defrag on its own, or so I have been told.
     

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