Hi everyone, this is my first time posting on this site, but from the threads i've read, the community seems to be awesome. So here's my situation. I'm a part of a collegiate all-male a cappella group at UF. We are a 15 guy group, and our performances usually have 1 person on vocal percussion (VP) and one soloist. We have the university doing sound for us in most situations, and it is usually pretty lousy. When using the university's sound, we usually have 2-3 generic dynamic mics placed almost horizontally facing us, while we are in an arc. The VP has his own mic, and the soloist has their own mic. Lately i've been taking a bit of initiative to try to bring some of my own equipment and just using that, but that is limited. I've started to bring my cheap condenser mic (a Carvin CM87s), and that has made the overall sound better, but usually means i we can't have any kind of monitors (feedback issues). Lately i've been reading around the forum about people using cardiods in ORTF (i'm very new to the field). would placing 2 of the university's dynamic mics in ORTF improve the sound substantially over what what they normally do? I've read a pair of SM57s can go a long way in this situation as well. What do you think about that? Being in bands growing up, i've always been under the impression that SM58 was more for vocals SM57 more for instruments. I'm mainly looking at micing the group (not solo or vp so much). My budget is probably under $200 for any kind of mics (i know, its low, but thats college a cappella for ya). I'm open also to just general tips on using any mics in this situation (omni or cardioid). Monitors aren't completely necessary, but they help out a lot. Thanks a lot, sorry if its been a bit long-winded.