lowcost PRO multitrack recording software anyone?

Discussion in 'Tracking / Mixing / Editing' started by HansAm, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. HansAm

    HansAm Active Member

    I need a proffesional alternative on my on-the-road-recording-rigg.
    I need a PRO result from a BUDGET buy.

    I've been looking at alot of open source stuff, Cubase, and so forth but cant make up my mind.

    There will be NO edition, just pure recording.

    This are the criterias.

    MUST HAVE:
    Compatible with my MOTU ASIO devices.
    16channels at once.
    110% Stabile with recordings that can exceed 5 hours in one take.
    Be able to export to separate tracks or a format that is compatible with Nuendo.

    Should have:
    Possibility to record MIDI.

    Must be:
    FREE/LOW COST...

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    Does this excist?
     
  2. cathode_ray

    cathode_ray Active Member

    16 track X 5 hours is gonna take one bigass drive...

    CUBASE is excellent regarding stability. I had an LE edition that came with interface, purchased SE-3 real cheap and I'm pleased.
    Outputs .WAV file which NUENDO will import.
     
  3. cathode_ray

    cathode_ray Active Member

    16 track X 5 hours is gonna take one bigass drive...

    CUBASE is excellent regarding stability. I had an LE edition that came with interface, purchased SE-3 real cheap and I'm pleased.
    Outputs .WAV file which NUENDO will import.
     
  4. JoeH

    JoeH Well-Known Member

    Not sure about the ASIO drivers, but the latest version of Cakewalk seems insanely cheap at $49. I was just looking at it, coincidently . (They just merged with Roland, FWIW).

    It seems to do MIDI as well as Digital Audio multitrack, and I can't imagine that it would NOT support ASIO. Worth a look-see, at that price, for sure....
     
  5. HansAm

    HansAm Active Member

    Cubase would be greate, If i can get it at the right price. That would be VERY compatible with Nuendo.

    And cakewalk for $49 is next to free... Interesting.
     
  6. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Tracktion 3 Project Bundle. About $150. No limitations other than what is determined by the power of your machine. Supports ASIO and the latest VST. Midi editing. Only one issue: it doesn't export to OMF.
     
  7. HansAm

    HansAm Active Member

    I can handle no OMF, even thow i WOULD like to see that. But on these projects the setup is thought of recording there is, as said, no edition so every track would be a continous audio stream.
     
  8. jonyoung

    jonyoung Well-Known Member

    Something you need to consider is that there are file size limitations imposed by certain operation sytems and drive formats. I know with Windows and a FAT32 drive, you're limited to 4 Gig file. How big is a 5 hour long file???? NTSF may have limits as well. I'm not a Mac guy, so don't know what or if the limitations might be.
     
  9. HansAm

    HansAm Active Member

    1minute of 44.1x16bit mono = aplrox 5mb.
    60 minutes equals: 302MB
    5 hours equals: 1.514MB

    32bit system can handle 2048MB big files. So im safe :D
     
  10. JoeH

    JoeH Well-Known Member

    Hans, I just re-read your original post....FIVE HOURS?!?!?!

    I'm almost afraid to ask what you're recording that will last that long.... it's not a peformance of John Cage's "As Slow as Possble", is it??? :twisted:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2728595.stm
     
  11. HansAm

    HansAm Active Member

    Mainly bandevents/Live. But also conferences, lectures, standup. Whatever needs documentation.
     
  12. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    No more Cage PLEASE!

    I have to admit I love this quote:

    "The performance follows a legal case in which composer Mike Batt was forced to pay a six-figure sum to Cage's publishers, who accused him of plagiarising a silent piece of music. "

    Anyone who has ever recorded 5 minutes of silence is guilty of plagiarising 4:33?
     
  13. HansAm

    HansAm Active Member

    How can you say it sounds the same when you cant hear anything?
     
  14. JoeH

    JoeH Well-Known Member

    That's a very good point, although I think they sued them for the "Concept" more than the content.

    Still, a savvy lawyer should have been able to get them off, based on a few intangibles.

    What if they claimed a different key, instrumentation, or time signature as well? :twisted:
     
  15. Kapt.Krunch

    Kapt.Krunch Well-Known Member

    Got'yer math a bit wrong, there, I'm afeared.

    5MBx60min=~300MB
    300MBx5 hours=~1500MB=~1.5GB, per track

    1.5GBx16tracks=~24GB total size.

    Just to clear that up :wink:

    Kapt.Krunch
     
  16. do yourself a favor and research torrents.
     
  17. HansAm

    HansAm Active Member

    Thats exactly what i said.... ???
    Nothin to clear up.
     
  18. HansAm

    HansAm Active Member

    ?? have you ever tried to make hire equipment with piracy software?.. Thats NOT a good idea.

    People does not like to pay for equipment that is "stolen".
     
  19. IIRs

    IIRs Well-Known Member

    +1

    I regularly use Tracktion to record long files (eg: 6 or 7 hour club nights) with no problems so far. I have been recording mono 24/44.1 files so I stay comfortably below the size limit for wav files... but if I needed to go longer Tracktion supports the Sonic Foundry Wav64 format (W64) which is basically a wav file with 64 bit headers instead of 32 bit, so vastly expanding the length of recording available.

    No. But it records BWAV files by default, so if you don't edit in Tracktion you can simply import the files into another app. And if you do edit in Tracktion you can export the edit as separate audio files for each track; no need to trawl through and render each track manually.
     
  20. IIRs

    IIRs Well-Known Member

    do us all a favour and shoot yourself.
     

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