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LynxTWO B, ProjectMix I/O Control Surface and Pro Tools - How To Put It Together

Discussion in 'Consoles / Control Surfaces' started by razorfish, Oct 15, 2012.

  1. razorfish

    razorfish Active Member

    hey guys, needs some help.

    Recently built a computer that's pretty robust and i'm running a projectmix i/o control surface with protools 10. now, i'm pretty versed on its operation etc but the computer this one replaced used to be my old home theater pc, which had a lynxtwo b soundcard that still gets great reviews.

    with that said, i hate to see the card not being used and was wondering:

    A) is there some way to incorporate this card into the setup that would make it more advantageous than it is, and

    B) if so, why would be advantageous?

    I'm running a windows pc, 8 core processor, lots of ram, yada yada yada. again, it's such a nice card, i just hate to see it collect dust.

    Any advice, comments, suggestions, etc., are welcome.

    thanks!
    michael
     
  2. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    You need to ask yourself a couple of questions: (1) does your new computer have a spare parallel PCI slot? (2) are there drivers available from Lynx to support this card under whatever version of Windows you are now running? This is not only the version number (e.g. Vista, Windows 7 etc), but also whether it's 32-bit or 64-bit.
     
  3. razorfish

    razorfish Active Member

    yes and yes - i have a couple of pci/e slots and lynx's drivers support up to windows 7 (Windows XP/Vista/7 in 32-bit and 64-bit: ASIO 2.0, WDM, DirectSound. Legacy Windows drivers available), which is what i'm running.

    compatibility aside, can you give me any scenarios with the card integrated and benefits, if any? again, what i'm really after is whether this card can be used to enhance or better my system since i'm somewhat new to studio work and unfamiliar with the 'possibilities.'

    thanks, bos!
     
  4. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    PCI and PCIe are NOT the same.
     
  5. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    As Jack and I were saying, you need to have a parallel PCI slot available on your motherboard. Several modern motherboards do have PCI or PCI-X slots for legacy cards, but most only have the serial PCIe slots. Tell us the make and model of the motherboard and we can advise you further.
     
  6. razorfish

    razorfish Active Member

    thanks for everyone's help, but let's not get bogged down in the specifics. I built the computer myself, and when i referenced pci/e i simply meant the MOBO accommodates both types of card and has each of these slots available. I simply want to know if and how i can incorporate the LynxTWO B into the setup to improve or enhance it, if it's even possible.

    I know i can run both in the same system as i did it with my last setup; however, I was still kinda new at it all at the time and found myself having to select between the lynx and the projectmix depending on 'who' got to handle the sound - surely this wasn't being utilized correctly or efficiently as it could be.

    For example, here's a dilemma: should i install the lynx and, say, run the xlr into the projectmix? what about connecting only the spdif or clock to the projectmix for better sync? These types of questions are at the heart of this post.

    I was hoping to somehow incorporate the lynx into the mix to borrow some of its possibly better computing power, but honestly I'm feeling these might be mutually exclusive and it's one or the other, but not both.

    again, i'm open to any possibilities

    thanks!
    michael
     
  7. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    I don't know the ProjectMix very well, specifically whether you can separate the audio I/O to/from the computer from the control surface functionality. If you can, I don't see any reason why you should not be able to use the Lynx as your audio I/O and the ProjectMix as your control surface.

    What you won't be able to do is aggregate the audio I/O functions of the two devices in the way that you could do on a Macintosh, say. Given that, there is little value in running a sync connection between the two boxes.
     
  8. razorfish

    razorfish Active Member

    hey bos, thanks! yeah, it's as i feared: use the lynx as the brain or the projectmix. what i've done in the past is use the lynx for all onboard audio, like streaming, games, etc., since it sounded REALLY good, then use the project mix for everything else. Again, it was a PITA to have to do, and the lynx isn't without its issues. Before a firmware upgrade, the mixer would default to 100% gain across the board upon restart. I can tell you it only had to happen once, but imagine the horror of running the lynx directly to a Parasound Halo A51 amp pushing B&W speakers at full volume! i was sick. fortunately, my speakers survived; however, another user wasn't so lucky. i believe his very expensive peerless tweeter blew across the room.

    anyway, if anyone has any suggestions on how these two can amicably occupy the same space, i'm all monitor.

    thanks again bos

    m
     
  9. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    So my question to you is... is this a toy or a tool? Good audio cards are good audio cards and they all play well together. What's going to enhance your system? The answer: you. Nothing is given make better any better than better and you've got the better of me. I know what you said you used it for and that's silly childhood crap. You have built a professional audio computer workstation. It's a tool it's not a toy. Ya get a cheap computer for your toy. And you use the cheap onboard computer sound card on your toy. Because it's just a toy.

    Now when you grow up, you'll learn that both of your audio interfaces are perfectly wonderful. What you don't know is, you need some kind of mixer to take advantage of the outputs from both cards for monitoring purposes. You can't be recording on one card and trying to play that TrackBack from the other card. Computers don't work like tape recorders. The driver and the sound are tied to the device. And many of us utilize numerous different A./D. converters for multi-track capture purposes. When you need to monitor those tracks while tracking, you need a mixer to combine the outputs of the different audio interface devices together for monitoring purposes. Your final mix can then be played back from either card, where you can then choose which card you would rather listen to for precision monitoring purposes of final mixes.

    All the differences between all different pieces of equipment today are mostly subtle differences, especially when dealing with good quality equipment. Those subtle differences are a little like whether you got your pickle on your hamburger or not. And whether that would destroy the hamburger enjoyment experience without the pickle? I could live without the pickle because when the mix sounds good, it sounds good, regardless what sound card it's coming out.

    Pretty nasty about that 100% level default. We've all had something like that happen in our career. Ya know when you press the wrong button on your console and the 24 track machine feeds back to the 24 track machine. Gota' love it when that happens. NOT. At least you can just replace the diaphragm in the JBL tweeters.

    I like modular stuff. And that's what you have now.
    Mx. Remy Ann David
     

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