Mastering and mixing at the same bloody time?

Discussion in 'Tracking / Mixing / Editing' started by SonicIdiot, Aug 25, 2009.

  1. SonicIdiot

    SonicIdiot Guest

    Hi all -

    I'm doing my own mastering for a demo using the UAD set of mastering plugs. I'm wondering if there's any disadvantage to loading the master channel of a song's DAW session with the mastering suite, getting the sound I like, and bouncing the final from there vs. bouncing the mix to a stereo track and mastering the bounce.

    The former seems more pure to me - I have total control over the mix properties AND the mastering channel at the same time and one bounce would be the least amount of processing possible.

    If I'm going to half-ass the mastering myself, why shouldn't I do it this way?
  2. Link555

    Link555 Well-Known Member


    Congrads on the UAD plugs, fun stuff!

    Mastering is more than EQ, compression and depth of a single track. It is more about, IMHO the way the whole album flows together.

    It is often easier to leave the mixes without bus compression, EQ, etc... because you will have more control in the master when you string all the songs together.

    As far as purity.... if your using digital all the way, it is less of an issue.
  3. SonicIdiot

    SonicIdiot Guest

    Thanks for the welcome!

    I understand what you're saying and totally agree - that mastering, in my case, is the complete process of, yes, making individual tracks shine but also composing them into an album, burning a perfect disc, and on and on. I'm just more curious about whether there is a technical down side to dumping finished, mastered tracks off the master channel of the DAW.

    As for processing, again I agree - it's staying 41000/24bit until the bitter end either way, so it's not an issue. But it's REALLY not an issue if I only bounce once.
  4. Link555

    Link555 Well-Known Member

    Technically it could be the same, however the workflow is limited.
  5. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    "it's staying 41000/24bit"

    44100/24 ?

    The issue is that if you start adding master effects, you might be unable to play back the entire mix if your PC isn't up to snuff.
  6. SonicIdiot

    SonicIdiot Guest

    Computing power is not at all an issue. I raised the question mainly because I've yet to read DIY mastering advice either recommending this method or warning against it.
  7. Link555

    Link555 Well-Known Member

    I don't think you will find that. It is possible, but for me it would make the flow of my work slower. Time is money.
  8. SonicIdiot

    SonicIdiot Guest


    I don't understand - it is cutting out a step. That can only make things faster, right?
  9. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    Not necessarily.

    Suddenly you will find yourself able to tweak the mix - this means endless going back and forth.

    By mixing it down, laziness kicks in and you're more inclined to either reflect properly on the mix, master it with greater resolve, or maybe give up and settle for your current mix.
  10. Link555

    Link555 Well-Known Member

    Well no because you now have to reload your daw with each project and jump back and forth between projects, to make sure the each song works for the next track on the album. It would be very time consuming and A/Bing would be very slow. IMO its much easier and faster to load the mixed tracks into one mastering package and tweek within it.

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