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Mastering Vocals

Discussion in 'Vocals' started by didzejzefir, Aug 20, 2003.

  1. didzejzefir

    didzejzefir Guest

    Would anybody help me master a 40 second vocal track, and then tell me what they have done to it? I would really appreciate this because I am trying to learn some mastering.. If anything my email address is: zefir-plhh@wp.pl Thanks for any help,

    Peter
     
  2. joe lambert

    joe lambert Distinguished Member

    I'll bite.
    Let me ask you why you are mastering just a vocal track. Is it going to be part of a mix later?

    Joe
     
  3. didzejzefir

    didzejzefir Guest

    Yes, it will be part of a mix later. Also, the thing is, I'm not that bad at mastering other stuff, but vocals get me..

    Peter
     
  4. falkon2

    falkon2 Well-Known Member

    Misconception alert!

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  5. joe lambert

    joe lambert Distinguished Member

    Why do you want to "master" the vocal seperate from the rest of the track prior to adding it? This sounds more like a mix issue.
     
  6. didzejzefir

    didzejzefir Guest

    Because the vocal doesn't sound too great...
     
  7. mistals

    mistals Guest

    Sounds like you want to sweeten, tweak, or just make the vocal better. That isn't mastering just good ol' tweaking. Mastering is for creating a whole project out of individual tracks. Can you upload your vocal so it can be listened to by some of the people here? We can listen to it and offer suggestions.
     
  8. falkon2

    falkon2 Well-Known Member

    Isn't that mixing? (and mastering too, at the end! Now I'm confused)
     
  9. Rod Gervais

    Rod Gervais Active Member

    Mastering is the act of taking a finished "mix" and "tweaking" it to provide the finished product.

    It would not typically involve the adjustment of individual tracks....... if the piece required work in that manner (let's say due to the fact that the desired finished product could not be delivered by the ME due to the mix itself)- then the recording engineer would re-mix the piece and provide that product to the ME for the final engineering.

    Please somebody - If i have this wrong "fix" me.... this is the process i envision and the road i am heading down with my bands work.

    Rod
     
  10. mistals

    mistals Guest

    Now that I read that it does seem confusing. When I said individual tracks I meant mixed songs verses a single track within a multitrack. Just noting that mastering is taking all the mixed songs and making a whole project out of them, and a single vocal track doesn't need album mastering but just some sweetning.
     
  11. didzejzefir

    didzejzefir Guest

    How do I upload it?

    What are the basics of sweetening the vocal?
     
  12. joe lambert

    joe lambert Distinguished Member

    First off let me say as a full time mastering engineer I don't consider myself a great mix engineer but here are some ideas that should help.

    What do you find wrong with the vocal. Is it tubby? Maybe you need a low shelf on it. Get rid of what's under 100 Hrz that is just going to mud up the mix. This helps it sit in a mix. the chesty sound of a vocal is usually around 350 - 450 Hrz. The detail is more around 1K - 2K. And the airy stuff is above 3.5 to 6K. Every vocal is a little different but this is a good start.

    Remember how the vocal works in the mix is what it's all about so you will want to tweak both to find what's going to work best.
     
  13. didzejzefir

    didzejzefir Guest

    Thanks.. umm I think it sounds like it was recorded from afar, but wasn't , do you know what i mean? it sounds like there is too much dynamics on it...
     
  14. Guitarman

    Guitarman Guest

    Too much dynamics (the vocal goes loud then soft)or to much "room" ie; it sounds like it's in a bathroom or a bedroom something?

    Best wishes,

    JD( o}===;;;
     
  15. Dudley

    Dudley Guest

    Did you add reverb? too much verb could make it sound as you describe, sounding like it was recorded from afar.
     
  16. didzejzefir

    didzejzefir Guest

    No I didn't add reverb .. I will upload my vocal track soon .. I will let you know .. Thanks
     
  17. thesprinkler

    thesprinkler Guest

    YES it seems that i have the same problem, i use protools 5.3.1 and im trying to find that plug in that gives it that sweetness, chorus, and minor echo, but i cannot seem to get it right... anyone with suggestions ?

    Micah young - lawless records
     
  18. by

    by Guest

    Getting the vocals to sound good and to sit well in a track is called "mixing". And keep in mind that even if the vocals sound good by itself, it doesn't mean it will sound good with all other instruments behind it. So you MAY want to do more eq/compression adjustments later after you hear how it all sounds together. Just a suggestion.
     
  19. didzejzefir

    didzejzefir Guest

    You mean more EQ/compression to the vocal or the whole project ?
     
  20. thesprinkler

    thesprinkler Guest

    i have a blue mouse microphone its sounds great! but all the fx i have included on digi 001 sound very generic and im tryin to get that crisp sound.i have tried multiple vocal tracks compression on one track, i have noticed most hip hop and rap songs seem to have the same vocal effex where do i find these effex or include them in my mix? any suggestions? thanks

    Micah young
     

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