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mic for Gibson acoustic

Discussion in 'Pro Audio Equipment' started by julian lamp, Oct 20, 2003.

  1. julian lamp

    julian lamp Guest

    hello i,m looking to hire a mic for recording a gibson j30,nice sound but the mk012,s i,m using arent really doing it .i,m thinking along the lines of a large condenser possibly a u47...what do you think ,the Gibson is not loud and like most Gibsons curved away in the mids,I,m strumming with my fingers and want something big and warm sounding...oh the last thing,i,m going through a sebatron pre (which is sounding great on my vocals )through a Hedd192
    I,m recording in a barn in Austria so i cant really these mics hence the need for guidance
    cheers julian
     
  2. julian lamp

    julian lamp Guest

    mmmm.can,t really try is what i meant to say
     
  3. MikoMader

    MikoMader Guest

    I had excellent results with the AEA R84 and a mid-50's j-185. There were two J-185's actually. One restored (bright and balanced) and one worn and original (warm and scooped). The preamp was a Daking with eq flat. I tried a Lawson L-47, a U87i, tlm-103, and the R84. The R84 was the undeniable winner of the bunch and it worked on both of the old Gibsons. The only thing I didn't like about the AEA was the yoke. It's about as trustworthy as a... well... something not trustworthy. It kicks major arse on ukelele, too.
     
  4. Jason James

    Jason James Guest

    Just did a 60s Gibson Ac with a TLM 103 (12th fret) an Oktava MK012 bridge and Two large condenser room mics in stereo. Great sounding room. Everyone is loving the tone.

    Cheers
    Jason
     
  5. TYY

    TYY Guest

    I think a large diaphragm is your best bet. Most SD are too scooped and do not complement the Gibson sound. 12th fret is a safe bet.
     
  6. Richard Monroe

    Richard Monroe Active Member

    I've had very good luck with an AKG C414B-ULS. Although I love the little Oktavas, they didn't work for me in that application, either.-Richie
     
  7. julian lamp

    julian lamp Guest

     
  8. julian lamp

    julian lamp Guest

    so i,m interested in the ribbon mic, i could hire a Royer121 from the uk but i,ve never heard this mic....decisions!!thanks for your suggestions
     
  9. Bryson

    Bryson Guest

  10. julian lamp

    julian lamp Guest

    Bryson you say KM84 but is that not a similar ballpark to the OktavaMK102 which i like but are recording the Gibson a little bit tinny, or are they just far better sounding,i could hire one or a couple of these as well ...i,m looking for something to bring out the warmth of this guitar
    i wish i was in London to try some out but i,m halfway up the Ausrtrian Alps....nice though.
    Kurt maybe you could chip in how would the Sebatron handle a ribbon such as a Royer 121?
     
  11. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Whatever you decide to do, the Seb will not hinder you in any way.....

    I'm for the LD in front and the KM84 over the shoulder facing down at the upper bout of the guitar.Your LD could be anything that is fairly flat,has nice detail and has low selfnoise. You can also mic the peghead as long as you dont do too much moving around.....A KM84 there is the ticket.Mark this....NOT a KM184, but the older one......If you have the dough for it, rent a U49.The U67 will also be a nice toy.The 47's are a bit darker unless they have a Modded one.
     
  12. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    In addition to the other suggestions, My defaults for AC-guitar I always give a try is the AKG 451/452 or Shure SM81.
     
  13. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    :tu: what he said!!
     
  14. julian lamp

    julian lamp Guest

    thanks very much guys i,m going to put the guitar and vocals down together now so two large condensers (or a ribbon )in figure of 8 seems the way to go.Cheers Julian
     
  15. missilanious

    missilanious Guest

    my choices would be..........
    AKG 451
    AKG 414-ULS
    AT 4033
     
  16. Malpasoman

    Malpasoman Member

    I use a pair of KM184's to mic my Gibson Gospel. I love the results for denser mixes. Other alternatives would be Josephson C42's, Shure KSM44's, or Groove Tubes GT44's.
     
  17. sdelsolray

    sdelsolray Active Member

    There have been several excellent mic suggestions from prior posts to this thread. I'm going to approach your situation from a different angle.

    Try using different guitar strings. If you want a darker sound, try D'Addario Flattops of Thomastik-Infeld Spectrums. I think most would agree that the source instrument itself has more to do with the recorded sound than anything in the electronic signal chain. Also, try strumming over the soundhold (if you're not doing that already). This warms things up a bit too.
    --
    Stephen Boyke
     

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