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Mic for Guitar-Amp. What to buy ?

Discussion in 'Guitars' started by walaby, Mar 5, 2005.

  1. walaby

    walaby Guest

    I'm thinking about buying a Mic for recording Instrument like Guitar-amp.
    It could cost up to 400$.
    Please can you give me some ideas of types and comments about ?
  2. Kev

    Kev Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    this is your first mic ?

  3. J-3

    J-3 Active Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    save up about $300 more and get a used R-121. (make shure you have a guarantee that it's good) You'll never regret it! It's could possibly be the only mic you'll ever want for ac and elec.

    Got to have a good pre amp though. This is just as important for any mic/any sound source.

    other wise a SM57 is ok, lots of different condensors can be pretty cool. With either of those mics be prepared to do LOTs of experimenting in mic positioning. Oh yeah, the first thing is to have a killer tone and killer player too.....

    Good luck
  4. Mario-C.

    Mario-C. Active Member

    Nov 17, 2002
    Mexico City
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    sennheiser 421, hard to go wrong with that one and it fits your budget

    or electrovoice RE-20, killer on guitar amps too

    I've never had any luck with 57's, I just hate 'em
  5. eddies880

    eddies880 Guest

    Ive used the 58 for yrs----------In my opinion-----its the BEST mic for live-or-recording!---------------------------The 58 has never-----ever-----------let me down-------------------.
    Save youre 400 bucks for a good vocal mic!----- :cool: dont push youre amp too hard while recording(In my opinion)
    Record at low levels to get the best tones dude! :lol:
  6. If you have $400

    Get 4 SM57's

    As for comments

    I have gone into the studio and gotten GREAT results with just one 57, this is a great mic for guitar rigs, to get anything close you will have to spend a lot of money

    Plus, they are built well, proven technology and sound awesome, and can be used for many many applications, from vocals to drums, to, damn just about anything

    For a studio, a SM57 is a MUST own
  7. Dave62

    Dave62 Guest

    $400? a 57,and a cheap condensor, CAD or something like that. If you can't get a good sound with a 57 one inch from the grill pointed at the dust cap/ speaker intersection then there is something else wrong. Bad amp, bad cabinet, bad sound, bad player, etc...
  8. therecordingart

    therecordingart Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    I would get an SM57 or a Sennheiser E609. I've used the E609 a few times now on guitar cabs and haven't brought out the trusty SM57 for the last 3 sessions!

    In all reality you are going to get a lot of people that say to get an SM57 with good reason. 1. It's an inexpensive mic 2. It sounds good with any application 3. It's built like a brick shithouse And the list goes on.

    The Sennheiser E609 can be used well on quite a few applications, but being the same price as the SM57......you'll get more out of the SM57.
  9. J-3

    J-3 Active Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    I'd have to disagree. I'd rather have one sweet mic than 100 sm 57's any day. I just tracked an acoustic tune last night, used the R-121 for everything. Ac gtr, male vox, shakers, tambos, djembe.. The Neumann LD tried to make an appearance but it never quiet made it. If I had about 3 more I think I could be VERY happy with nothing else. The 57 is a good mic, can't underestimate it. But I'll never use a 57 for elec gtr again. Also, sorry eddies880 but I think there's no sweeter sound than an old tube amp that's been on all day cranked way up. The sound of an old super or deluxe about to melt down is sweet. Plus I like how it smells too.. :)
  10. therecordingart

    therecordingart Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    How much does the R-121 cost?

    When it comes to guitar amps....anything that is tube and cranked past 11!!!!! If you are concerned about being too loud then buy a Marshall Power Brake and you still can have the head cranked!
  11. lek

    lek Guest

    I would seriously try out different amps, cabinets, and speakers. Why spend all this money on equipment if the input isn't top notch? My 1965 fender deluxe (vintage not reissue) sounded like crap recorded through a certain celestion cranked. sounded awesome through this 1966 jensen c12q. I just got 2 vintage 1966 c12q's and they sound COMPLETELY different in different cabs - one in the deluxe cabinet and another in this marshall 1x12 cab I have. Finally, I have an old 4x12 marshall basketweave with greenbacks that sound SO FAR superior than this new celestion - the tone I get recorded sounds completely different. So just taking ANY guitar amp and cranking it, through any speaker, I don't think is the answer.

    Also, if you're going to have expensive mics, mic preamps and compressors, why record a new guitar with crappy new growth wood, not so great pickups, not a great guitar cable, speaker cable etc. etc. You can also get vast improvements / differences in tone via the guitar, pickups, guitar cable, amp, and speaker cable.
  12. WRX07

    WRX07 Guest

    R-121 about $1100. If you can afford it, GET IT. Awesome, awesome mic. I worry a little about damaging it's ribbon so I'm extra cautious, but *knock on wood* so far so good. If you get up to the $1000 range a Coles 4038 would be worth checking out too.
  13. Markd102

    Markd102 Well-Known Member

    Apr 24, 2001
    My fav cab mic has always been the RE38n/d. But good luck finding one.......
    Actually, I'd love another....... anyone want to sell one?
  14. eddies880

    eddies880 Guest

    No porblem dude-----I own a Marshall----been using it live or for about 20yrs,so I know what youre talking about as far as the tube sound,there is no sound likei t----but the only problem Ive run into while recording with the Marshall cranked is that the 57 or 58 cant handle the SPL,Ive used a KSM44 that can handle it,man it sounds great!
  15. MrPhil

    MrPhil Guest

    YES! The aroma of good sound! :lol:

    BTW I'll put my word in for the MD421 by Sennheiser :!:
  16. J-3

    J-3 Active Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    Damn, eddies your making a 57 distort.... holy loudness batman! I've mostly had experiance with my old 60's fenders. (super reverb 40 watts all tube 4x10" , Deluxe Reverb 22 watts all tube 1x12" and my little Vibro Champ 5 watts class A all tube 1x8" speaker.)

    None of those could ever distort a 57. I just crank 'em up till they sound nice, throw that R-121 in front about 8" back, go thru my MP2NV and EL8x and its pure tone fiesta! Very litttle in this world make me happier :D . Even live I use my Deluxe and never have any problems. I put it up on a stand and have the sound guy mic it and put some in the monitors if its a really big place. That way I get the amp about to explode sound but at doable volumes. I don't how guys running 100 watt Marshall stacks can even use those monsters. Damn man, thats 100 watts, all tube! That is a lot of grind.

    As far as the mic thing, a 57 can get great results. I'm shure the 421 is great too, its a standard. Also, I just saw the newest SRV DVD live and they had Re20's on EVERYTHING including Stevies gtr amps. Sounded great! The thing about any type of dynamic or condensor mic compared to the R-121 is that with the 121 you just pop it infront of what ever you want to track and it sounds gold. The others you have to do lots of experimenting with placement to get the desired results. Oh, and if your making your 57's distort then you don't want to put a 121 in front of that firebreathing amp either.
  17. Reggie

    Reggie Distinguished Member

    Dec 20, 2004
    Right right, 57 is the standard.
    Has anyone else tried a Beyerdynamic M69TG, or just me? I picked one up from a friend for $100 and I am liking it very much on guitar and for my live vocal mic. On guitar it seems to have an easier "sweet spot" than a 57, and it just seems to sound meatier and nicer overall. Maybe I just haven't gotten over initial infatuation with my new toy, but I think it is a great 57 alternative. Probably gonna try it for a snare or tom mic next too.
    Anyone else got one?
  18. PCM

    PCM Guest

    personally never been able to get a good tone (for my application) with an sm57. My fav. is a c414. Lately I've even been using small diaphragm condensers on my blues junior. sound great. studio Projects c4- 300 bucks for "matched" pair.
  19. RandomGuest

    RandomGuest Guest

    Feb 10, 2001
    I have to say, I really haven't got that "ideal" sound from any of my SM57's when I record guitar. I don't hate them, however I am very curious what else others are using to get an awesome sound. I get the best results with 1 mic up close and a condenser mic 2 to 3 feet back (or further for a room sound).
    But I am to the point that I want to purchase something new (mic wise) and try getting a more "ideal" sound.
  20. LittleDogAudio

    LittleDogAudio Active Member

    Sep 24, 2004
    I would look into the Beyer M88. It's sorta in the ballpark with the 57 but quite a bit thicker in the lower mids and not as hyped in the upper-mids. I generally start with this mic on guitar cabs.

    my .02

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