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mic for very soft female vocal

Discussion in 'Vocals' started by Bjarne, Mar 11, 2005.

  1. Bjarne

    Bjarne Guest

    At the moment I'm using a Rode NT1000 to record a girl with a very soft voice. Without eq she sounds very boomy and dull. To make her sound better I roll of the bottom and boost around 2k. I'm thinking that I might get better results by buying a mic that fits her better in the first place. Right now I'm using mackie preamps but I plan to buy a Phoenix Audio DRS-1.

    So do you guys have a suggestion for a mic which has very forward mids and tight (and not too prominent) bottom? I want her to sound very present and "in your face".

    My budget is kinda flexible but I prefer something less than 2000$ Until now I have considered the AT4033 or a Gefell MT71s.

  2. JoeDj

    JoeDj Guest

    I have the AT4033 and sounds great. I would also consider Soundelux U99 (Neumann U67 like) and Neumann U87. I have tried them all with some wick voices and I got good results.
  3. Aziel

    Aziel Guest

    the 4033, its great but tend to be a little sibilant...the U87 fits perfectly in womans voice, have more body and can sculpt with the EQ...my 2 cents... :wink:
  4. Bjarne

    Bjarne Guest

    The u99 and u87 are both around 3500$ here in europe. I guess I could afford that but it would be kinda problematic. Also I think that it may be overkill since I like to put lots of eq, delay and sometimes vocoder on the vocal, and thus the small differences will disappear.

    Since I don't have any sibilance problems at all, the 4033 might not be a bad choice. However I'm a little afraid that it will sound too thin and brittle?
  5. zemlin

    zemlin Well-Known Member

    What comes to mind for me is a nice valve preamp to help beef things up.
  6. zemlin

    zemlin Well-Known Member

    Another thing - make sure you're playing around a LOT with mic technique. I don my headphones, take the mic in my hand, and with the talent singing I move the mic all over - high, low, straight-on, near, far, off-axis ... I recently heard of a fellow getting good results by putting the mic in the corner of the room and singing into it there - apparently the reflections gave him the sound he was looking for.
  7. phulden

    phulden Guest

    I've achieved some good results with the NT1000 stepping really close to the mic and then singing very silent almost whispering. This could somewhat resemble your soft singing girl.

    My chain is directly into a Digi 002 Rack.
  8. tomtom

    tomtom Guest

    I think that you need to look for a microphone with a greater sensitivity than the average condenser microphone.
    The Brauners, if you can afford them, will do. I bought the VM1 for that reason (amongst others). I get really, really clean tracks. The Phantoms, a little cheaper, but with a little less lo end and fewer directivities were great too on soft female vocals. Also, if you're concerned about boominess, try a an omni microphone. You'll be able to get closer without proximity effect. These microphones tend to sound brighter than others, but I see myself reaching for less eq...

    Hope this helps,

  9. Bjarne

    Bjarne Guest

    thanks guys, but that is some mighty expensive mics you're recommending. I was hoping that I would be able to get a quality mic for less money.

    I've already tried to experiment with the mic position, so I think I know how that works.

    What is the advantage of having a more sensitive mic? how would that be different from just turning om the preamp?
  10. Markd102

    Markd102 Well-Known Member

    Deffinately get a top preamp first. The Mackies are your weak link..... They are bottom heavy to start with.
    The NT1000 will get you good results with a high-end preamp.
    Does an Avalon VT-737SP fit in your budget? No idea what they go for over there.
  11. Bjarne

    Bjarne Guest

    The Avalon is about twice the price (or more) of the Phoenix DRS-1. Since the drs-1 should be a very nice preamp, I'm pretty much decided for that one already. It is a preamp only though.

    Still I believe it would be a good idea to try out some different mics as well, because I'm looking for a very different sound and I don't believe that it can be achieved by only replacing the mackie.
  12. Markd102

    Markd102 Well-Known Member

    I think you'll be VERY surprised. I took my Buzz Audio pre to a mate's place to AB it against his Mackie. The difference was astounding. He hasn't recorded anything through his Mackie since.

    And the Phoenix is also a very nice unit. Get that and try the NT1000 on it before you spend more on mics.

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